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MF35 Rear Thrust Washer vs Bearing/Block Surfaces

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Zane(WA)

09-02-1998 21:28:01




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Looks as though I inherited trouble (sic), the #3 connecting rod journal was chewed up but it looks salvageable. Status is--- the rear thrust washer is completely thrashed. It looks as though the lower half was not properly seated in the lower main bearing slot and had spun within the recess of both the bearing cap and the engine block. Both the cap and the corresponding area of the block are tapered with very little of the recessed slot for the replacement half of the lower washer. Am I correct in assuming the bearing recesses of the front and rear thrust washers sould be parrallel ? Since the journals are not directly affected, is there a fix for both the block and the bearing thrust washer surfaces ? Or is a replacement block in order ?

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M. Smith

09-03-1998 04:52:00




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 Re: MF35 Rear Thrust Washer vs Bearing/Block Surfaces in reply to Zane(WA), 09-02-1998 21:28:01  

: Looks as though I inherited trouble (sic), the #3 connecting rod journal was chewed up but it looks salvageable. Status is--- the rear thrust washer is completely thrashed. It looks as though the lower half was not properly seated in the lower main bearing slot and had spun within the recess of both the bearing cap and the engine block. Both the cap and the corresponding area of the block are tapered with very little of the recessed slot for the replacement half of the lower washer. Am I correct in assuming the bearing recesses of the front and rear thrust washers sould be parrallel ? Since the journals are not directly affected, is there a fix for both the block and the bearing thrust washer surfaces ? Or is a replacement block in order ?

Sounds like bad trouble. I have had the blocks repaired, but this cost about as much as a good used block. One of the reasons that this happens is people will keep their foot on the clutch pedal thus putting pressure on the press. plate pushing it foward, creating constant press. on the crank and thrust brgs. Have you checked the flanged surface on the crank where the thrust brgs ride, it can wear severely, resulting in crank replacement or having the thrust area built back up to std., if not worn to bad, you may be able to use an oversize thrust brg.

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Hawgee

09-07-1998 20:27:55




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 Re: Re: MF35 Rear Thrust Washer vs Bearing/Block Surfaces in reply to M. Smith, 09-03-1998 04:52:00  
: : : Looks as though I inherited trouble (sic), the #3 connecting rod journal was chewed up but it looks salvageable. Status is--- the rear thrust washer is completely thrashed. It looks as though the lower half was not properly seated in the lower main bearing slot and had spun within the recess of both the bearing cap and the engine block. Both the cap and the corresponding area of the block are tapered with very little of the recessed slot for the replacement half of the lower washer. Am I correct in assuming the bearing recesses of the front and rear thrust washers sould be parrallel ? Since the journals are not directly affected, is there a fix for both the block and the bearing thrust washer surfaces ? Or is a replacement block in order ?

: Sounds like bad trouble. I have had the blocks repaired, but this cost about as much as a good used block. One of the reasons that this happens is people will keep their foot on the clutch pedal thus putting pressure on the press. plate pushing it foward, creating constant press. on the crank and thrust brgs. Have you checked the flanged surface on the crank where the thrust brgs ride, it can wear severely, resulting in crank replacement or having the thrust area built back up to std., if not worn to bad, you may be able to use an oversize thrust brg.

Uh huh! Good info. I've got a 64 MF35 Utility all apart. The block and bearing cap is great. The flange on crank is slightly concave on the front side. Pop must have drove with foot on clutch. Do you know how much bigger the over size thrust bearings are? I've been told if having crank turned, don't touch that flange.

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M. Smith

09-08-1998 07:53:54




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 Re: Re: Re: MF35 Rear Thrust Washer vs Bearing/Block Surfaces in reply to Hawgee, 09-07-1998 20:27:55  

: : : : : Looks as though I inherited trouble (sic), the #3 connecting rod journal was chewed up but it looks salvageable. Status is--- the rear thrust washer is completely thrashed. It looks as though the lower half was not properly seated in the lower main bearing slot and had spun within the recess of both the bearing cap and the engine block. Both the cap and the corresponding area of the block are tapered with very little of the recessed slot for the replacement half of the lower washer. Am I correct in assuming the bearing recesses of the front and rear thrust washers sould be parrallel ? Since the journals are not directly affected, is there a fix for both the block and the bearing thrust washer surfaces ? Or is a replacement block in order ?

: : Sounds like bad trouble. I have had the blocks repaired, but this cost about as much as a good used block. One of the reasons that this happens is people will keep their foot on the clutch pedal thus putting pressure on the press. plate pushing it foward, creating constant press. on the crank and thrust brgs. Have you checked the flanged surface on the crank where the thrust brgs ride, it can wear severely, resulting in crank replacement or having the thrust area built back up to std., if not worn to bad, you may be able to use an oversize thrust brg.

: Uh huh! Good info. I've got a 64 MF35 Utility all apart. The block and bearing cap is great. The flange on crank is slightly concave on the front side. Pop must have drove with foot on clutch. Do you know how much bigger the over size thrust bearings are? I've been told if having crank turned, don't touch that flange.

The oversize thrust washers are.007 oversize, if you need to you can install them on one side only or both sides. The thrust area on the crank can be built back to std. if worn badly.

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