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JD 490 planter color scheme

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Randy G.

02-09-2003 20:26:10




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I'm restoring a old 490 planter. It has cut off wheels which leads me to beleive its dated around 1940.(it was my grandfathers)I know the wheels are yellow but the preasure wheel has remnants of green paint on them. The manuals no help. Should they be green? Any help is welcome, Thanks!!!




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Larry H

02-11-2003 16:48:46




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 Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to Randy G., 02-09-2003 20:26:10  
Randy, you can take this for what it is worth-I went to Moline to learn about 290 planters and this is from the teacher who worked the planter dept at Deere. Stand behind the planter and on the angle iron that goes all the way across the back on the right hand side is a serial # such as C34234. The letter is the year-A=1941 B=1942 etc. The letters I and Q are not used so just skip them.
I will quote this from the teacher. "Press wheels were green in early years and yellow in later. Press wheels were dipped so the entire wheel is one color. If you care to use mine as a guide it is on the cover of Green Mag November 1998". It is now in the lobby of the JD offices in Moline so I feel he is close to correct. Sorry for the length, but there are some good ideas here

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The Dukester

02-10-2003 10:09:40




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 Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to Randy G., 02-09-2003 20:26:10  
The 490 planter I had 20 years ago still had it's original paint except for the seed and fertilizer boxes and it had yellow transport and packer wheels. It was a "jewel" by the way, if I didn't pull it over 5 mph it planted just as good as the 7000' s John Deere was selling for 2000 a row back then. I stiil think all things considered John Deere still builds the best planters!



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Dr.EVIL

02-10-2003 11:40:33




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 Re: Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to The Dukester, 02-10-2003 10:09:40  
Dad had a 490 also... Had the GANDY Insecticide & herbicide boxes on it the last 10 years He farmed. Only complaint I ever heard Him make about it was the old runners didn't hold depth real well in varying soil conditions... and the clutch needed rebuilding every few years. Always seemed like both markers always dropped too. His had rubber tires so it must have been a later model.... and for the life of Me I can't remember is the press wheels were green or yellow.... but I'm thinking yellow. Neighbor had a 494 that was a much better stronger planter....rubber press wheels, etc. Dad always "Hill Dropped" corn but drilled his beans... 3 kernals every foot to 14 inches; beans were one about every 5-6 inches in 38" rows. Planting sure went a lot faster when He stopped "Checking In the Corn" and didn't have to play with the guide wire at the end of every pass.

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Steve - IN

02-10-2003 05:35:45




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 Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to Randy G., 02-09-2003 20:26:10  
Randy,
I'll second F-I-T's idea. I've got a 290 with yellow spoked wheels for rubber - and that's the only yellow on it, save for the hoppers which have the pre 1950 logo decals.

Steve



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F-I-T

02-10-2003 01:32:24




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 Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to Randy G., 02-09-2003 20:26:10  
Randy:

Boy, that was a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure tha tour 490 had yellow only on the rubber-tired wheels, not the packers.

Are you sure those are cut-off's ? Could be the spoke wheels for rubber from the factory.

Again, as I remember, just the two "drive" wheels were yellow.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855



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To F.I.T. from Randy G.

02-10-2003 07:08:44




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 Re: Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to F-I-T, 02-10-2003 01:32:24  
Thanks for the reply Frank. The wheels are flat spoked with a welding job done by what looks to be an amature with several areas of the spoke showing that the weld didn't cover. The manual I have shows most pictures of the planter on steel spoke wheels W/O rubber. Any more info on the planter would be great. Thanks, Randy G.



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Larry

02-10-2003 08:45:37




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to To F.I.T. from Randy G., 02-10-2003 07:08:44  
Randy, we had a 490 on the farm that was on rubber. Both the carrier wheels AND the press wheels were yellow. I have in my collection an early 290 on steel wheels. The steel wheels and the press wheels are yellow on it. By the way, on the angle iron frame at the rear of the planter their is a serial number stamped in the planter. If I remember correctly, when you are standing in back of planter looking forward it will be to your right about 6-10 inches from end.

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Larry

02-10-2003 08:45:26




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to To F.I.T. from Randy G., 02-10-2003 07:08:44  
Randy, we had a 490 on the farm that was on rubber. Both the carrier wheels AND the press wheels were yellow. I have in my collection an early 290 on steel wheels. The steel wheels and the press wheels are yellow on it. By the way, on the angle iron frame at the rear of the planter their is a serial number stamped in the planter. If I remember correctly, when you are standing in back of planter looking forward it will be to your right about 6-10 inches from end.

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Will P

02-09-2003 20:41:29




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 Re: JD 490 planter color scheme in reply to Randy G., 02-09-2003 20:26:10  
Well, I can't help too much with the color, but, the 290 and 490 didn't come out until 1941. If you go to the back of the frame. On the right side, standing at the back, on top of the angle iron. There will be a letter with numbers after it. It will look something like.

D 34534

The letter is the year made.

If you post it, I will tell you what year it was made.

I also have to find my notes. :-)

Will P

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