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Richard J. Sche

01-10-2003 08:49:13

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I have my Dads first tractor a 1943 or 1944 styled John Deere B. I want to fully restore this tractor. But I have never done a restoration or how to even start one. The tractor to all is junk. Every thing on the tractor is shot from tires, sheet metel, cracked block, radiator leaks, exchast is all gone , grill shot like they say junk. But to me it is in my heart to do the restoration in memory of my DAD. Can anybody tell me how to start and what books do I need to buy to get me started.

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Clyde Scott

01-11-2003 04:41:05

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

Hi Richard:
If you will send me your address, I'll send you a copy of the book "John Deere Model B Restoration Guide" by Robert Pripps. When I first started restoring tractors, my first project was a 1950 B. I got three copies of this book for Christmas that year and I can only read one.. You are welcome to one of these books. I congrat you on having your dads old tractor to restore..
Clyde Scott - Moultrie, GA.

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Richard J. Scherr

01-12-2003 10:35:54

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Clyde Scott, 01-11-2003 04:41:05

To Clyde Stott
Thanks very much for your the book I know It will come in handy . My address is Richard J Scherr
4714 W. Van Beck Av.
Greenfield Wisconsin 53220
The tractor is out on our old farm in North Dakota .We now have a small shop on the farm and the tractor is stored inside. Thanks again.

Richard

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Dennis Benson

01-10-2003 21:13:53

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

There is no such thing as a junk tractor, some are just more mechanically challenged.

Buy all the different manuals you can get some will have different pictures or different tips that are not included in others. The best buy I've found is the parts manual from John Deere, I ordered one for a model L, and they were amused picking it out of the box of parts manuals others ordered for newer and bigger tractors.

First thing to do is buy the large container of your favorite penetrating oil, and a spray bottle, a set of thread chasers, and thread files to clean bolts before removing nuts.

Find an engine rebuilding shop where you can take parts to be rebuilt, find the bearing stores where you will buy bearings by specifications, and the bushings you will have to order, too. Find the dismantlers where you can buy used parts.

Tools. The best hand tools for the dollar seems to be Craftsman with their lifetime guarantee, but the power tools aren't that good.

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Richard J. Scherr

01-12-2003 10:45:52

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Dennis Benson, 01-10-2003 21:13:53

Thanks for the help. The tractor is stored inside now . It has been inside for a few years . Up until then it was not sheaded to often. But it still can be fixed up. Just a big challenge for me.

Richard

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Gary in TX

01-10-2003 17:34:44

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

HI Richard, I have my dads 41 B that I will be restoring as well. I have another in the process of working on right now. A 41 John Deere H, my dad also had one of these that they bought new so I will be restoring not one, not two, but three pieces of family history, the third being a Farmall B. My grandpaw on mom's side had one. Mom is gone but I still have my dad and surprizingly he has not said anything bad about what I'm doing, on 99% of what I do he is very negative. Holler if you need anything in the way of encouragement or help, I do know quite abit about the B Deere but am in no means an expert. You will get great help here on this site. It is one of the best sites I have found on the web. Enjoy and don't let anyone tell you you can't do it, prove them wrong!!!

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Richard J. Scherr

01-12-2003 10:52:47

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Gary in TX, 01-10-2003 17:34:44

Thanks this has all been very impressive so far to get all this good advice from everyone I will print all this for future reference. My dad also has a dc case he also bought new. It is still in good shape and runs. Next one to resore . It is also in a shead now.

Richard

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Tony630

01-10-2003 17:22:15

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

Just Do IT! Subscribe to the Green Magazine. And do like most; start at the back with MR. Thinker. What a character(s) - Yet very-VERY knowledgeable. They, (Green Magazine) have a great library of books from which you can purchase. And if brave enough write a letter to MR. Thinker telling him what you're doing and ask what books he thinks you should get.

Trust me it will be the most enjoyable, the most irritating, and in the end, will give you the MOST SATISFACTION.

If there is one thing I will tell you is, Restore, Repair, Fix the tractor to YOUR ability - liking as close to original as you want or have the ability. And remember there will always be that guy to find something wrong. Don't worry about it! It is usually someone who hasn't or doesn't take the time to restore one him/herself and cannot appreciate what you have. Mr. Thinker calls the 'Correct Police'.

Every tractor I see teaches me something. Most of all the evolution of the farming industry.

Tony

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Richard J. Scherr

01-12-2003 10:56:39

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Tony630 , 01-10-2003 17:22:15

Looks like a plan is coming in place with all this help. Thanks again

Richard

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tractorboy

01-10-2003 14:51:09

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

None are junk! Remember ,when you get thru you will have a piece of history and a bunch of memories of your Dad . Good Luck on your new project and ask if you have problems.

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Rich

01-10-2003 15:43:26

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to tractorboy, 01-10-2003 14:51:09

Go for it. I bought a 47 H Farmall that my Dad bought in the earky 50s and that is the first Farmall that i had ever drove and I grew up running that in the field. He sold it in the in the early 60s. I bought it in 1995 and I told Dad that I bought it and he asked me what I wanted that old thing for. It was junk when I boughht it but fixed it up like new and he is very proud of it now. Dad {84} and Mom {88} are still with us today, Thanks to the good Lord. So do that John Deere and be proud of every second that you work on it.

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Richard J. Scherr

01-12-2003 11:00:28

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Re: Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Rich, 01-10-2003 15:43:26

The b I used when I was a kid also. Did a lot of corn culltivating with that tractor. The best years of my life were on the farm.

Richard

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Willie

01-10-2003 12:16:33

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

The first tractor on our farm was a JD-B. It was traded for a Farmall M. I'm in my 50s and last winter I restored that old M It had set stuck for 20 years (iron scrap). Like you say you get more in them than they are worth but I'm sure glad I did. My Dad passed on near 25 years now. Mom is not in good health. She stood on the porch with tears running down her cheeks when I pulled Dads old tractor up to the farm house, looking and sounding like it was new. I'll never forget how happy she was to see that old tractor of Dads. (Was worth ever penny it cost me) I use it around the place quite often, not becouse it's handy but just to bring a smile to her lips. I've been looking for the B that Dad traded, I'd redo it in a heart beat just for her but am running out of time. I've got a son and grandkids now and they all love that old tractor. It will be great to pass it along as a little part of my Dad and myself for them to use and enjoy. If you pass up on that old B you will regret never fixing it up. Like they say "Just Do It" Good luck, Bs are great tractors.

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Richard J. Scherr

01-10-2003 12:27:46

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Willie, 01-10-2003 12:16:33

This B was bought brand new by my Dad. I have an old picture with my dad sitting on it with a smile. I think it might have been the day when he brought it home. Dad and Ma are gone but the tractor is still here.

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Kenny

01-10-2003 12:09:48

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

Congratulations, I know how you feel now and I know how you will feel on the first time out after the restoration as I bought my dad's 1928 GP back about 8 years ago and last spring I got his 1952 A back and this is the first tractor that I learned to drive and we used it here on the farm for many years and nothing could replace getting to see the look on his face when I pulled in the driveway and when he came out he didn't ask anything but only said were did you ever find my ole girl at. It was like a long lost member of the family had come home. Now down to business as for your project, all the replies have been good and accurate so far. Get parts, service and owner's manuals and you can get them new from Deere or look around to find origionals but they will be more expensive. I have restored several tractors and from the sounds of what you say is wrong with your's I would advise you to look around and find a good parts or donor tractor since this will probably save you some money in the long run and what you don't use can always be sold. You may not get every single part you need on the parts tractor but you can be choicy and get most of them and from what I have found buying a piece here and a piece there adds up to a lot of money in most cases. Don't get in a hurry as it will take time and by all means ask you friends for a favor and get them to help. After all what are friends for. I am not by any means an expert but feel free to email me if I can help and let know how you progress. GOOD LUCK

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Richard J. Scherr

01-10-2003 12:33:07

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Kenny, 01-10-2003 12:09:48

Thanks for your help. I guess I will make a trip to the deere dealer for the manuals. I plan on taking a long time to do the job. I still work and have 2 kids in college.

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Ravgardner

01-10-2003 09:41:57

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

I think you will be glad you did this. I am just finishing my Dads 44 B. He bought it new and used it all his life. You will find lots of help on these discussion boards, so visit often, read, listen and ask questions. It worked for me. I also joined the John Deere Colletors Center and with that you can get the serial number researched to learn date of manufacture and shipment. In addition to the parts book, get the operators manual from Deere. It will help alot. Take your time and enjoy the process. It has been the most relaxing activity of my life. Place no time restrictions or deadlines on the job I think is a key to enjoying the restoration process. Best of luck.

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Richard J. Scherr

01-10-2003 09:50:00

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Ravgardner, 01-10-2003 09:41:57

Thanks for your support of this project.

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John

01-10-2003 09:36:16

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

I did up my Dads first tractor he bought used in 37. A 36 B-n. Will never forget the smile on his face when He saw it a year or so afore he passed on. Some things are priceless. This board is the best place to start. Please post the serial number if its still there. Can you do some of the work yourself?

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Richard J. Scherr

01-10-2003 09:53:38

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to John, 01-10-2003 09:36:16

Oh yes I want to do most of the work I can. I know this will take a long time. But I know it's the right thing to do.

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John T

01-10-2003 09:23:26

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Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 08:49:13

Dear Richard, Although Im not gonna be able to get you off to much of a start as youre gonna need, I just had to compliment you on doing such a thing in memory of your dad. I do some restoration and write a few magazine articles for Green Magazine etc on the subject, but dont have any family keepsake tractors. I do, however, have my Grandparents antique floor model console Grunow radio Im gonna get restored in their memory, as they bought it new when their son and 2 son in laws had to fight in WW II to listen to the latest news.

I beleive if you go to either Green Magazine or Two Cylinder Magazines web sites, you can purchase or find links to Restoring a JD B Tractor book written by Pribbs I believe? Those sites and links plus this one have a ton of literature to help. Once you get to more specific engine or especially electrical questions for my part, post here and all the good old boys will be glad to help.

I guess youre aware this is gonna get expensive, but in general I suggest you tear the whole thing down, take a ton of pictures time to time to help you remember where parts go back lol, and buy a JD Styled B Parts Book the first thing right off from a local JD Dealer to start a parts list of all youre gonna need. Many parts you can buy from Green or Two Cyliner magazine ads, and start looking for any wrecking yards also. You about have to replace all gaskets, so Good Luck, jump right in, keep pics and records and use that parts book, and Im glad to see people who restore sentimental family heirloom. PS do you have a shop and a torch etc., because youre gonna need a lot of heat assistance in disassembly. Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Richard J. Scherr

01-10-2003 09:47:01

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Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to John T, 01-10-2003 09:23:26

Thanks for your help so far .Yes I have a small shop to use .This is why I want to get started. This is my own project . And I know the money I put into the tractor will be far more than the thing is worth. But this is something I have to do. I have been thinging about this project for some time. My brother wanted to get rid of that I sore tractor he calls it and I will not let him. So it has caused a few problems already . So I want to get it out of his way. So I can work on it for years if I have to.

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ed b

01-10-2003 17:58:43

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Re: Re: Re: John Deere B Restoration in reply to Richard J. Scherr, 01-10-2003 09:47:01

im about 2/3 of the way on a 44 b read the parts book / repair manual like it was the bible wait a second it is the bible when it comes to tractors

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