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Attatching #45 Loader to JD 50 B

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Mike

01-08-2003 20:44:47




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I would appreciate any help I could get on attatching a 45 loader to a 1950 model B. My main concern is with the hydraulic lines. What type of couplings do I need to connect to the Powr-Trol?

2nd, the loader has a hydraulic cylinder on bucket in place of mechanical trip system along with a dual remote valve to control both the bucket boom and dump. Would the system work if I put the Powr-Trol operating lever into the raise position with one hand, to get the hydraulic oil flowing to the dual valves, and then controled the boom and bucket with the remote dual valves?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

JD50B

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F-I-T

01-09-2003 05:17:41




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 Re: Attatching #45 Loader to JD 50 B in reply to Mike, 01-08-2003 20:44:47  
Mike:

I have a 45W (made for wide front end), and it has a hydraulic bucket, too. I use it on my '70'Diesel, and the Pow-R-Trol has that selective control valve so that I can take my pressure from the side pipe plugs. You can do this too, you'll just need to have the correct fittings.

The way mine works is:

Place the lever in "rear" position. Yup, that's the way it works for me. So, I throw the lever to the rear, and then my two lever valve works the loader functions. This is fine until you lift too heavy a load or let the bucket move against it's end of travel, because then the P-trol lever returns to center. That's a nice safeguard, but you can strap that lever in position with a bungee cord if it gets too annoying.

I used Pioneer type couplers to connect the loader to the P-trol hoses. On the P-trol coupling, if you want to draw the pressure from the side pipe plugs, you'll need to use those solid nosed plugs in the P-trol box so that the oil flow is diverted to the plugs...at least that 's what I remember. It's been a long time since I worked with a P-trol box without a selective control valve. If you have the plugs that have the pipe threads in their outer ends, you know the ones that will accept the hoses for a cylinder, you can use them. People tend to get away from those as you lose a fair bit of oil everytime you disconnect or reconnect them.

I'm sure someone else here will be able to guide you further, but that's what I know for now. Just remember, using a loader like 45 on a tractor without power steering or live hydraulics will make it a chore, but years ago, it probably beat the heck out of a pitch fork !

I'll be flying home tonight and can get you some digital photos tomorrow if that would help you out.

Frank-in-Tallahassee

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JD50B

01-09-2003 20:29:38




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 Re: Re: Attatching #45 Loader to JD 50 B in reply to F-I-T, 01-09-2003 05:17:41  
Frank,

Thanks for the information. Mine is also a 45W and it came off a 70gas. At this time I don't have any hydraulic couplings and my tractor is on the opposite side of the state (I bought it from my inlaws and have yet to get it home and play). I bought the loader locally and can't wait until spring to put them together.

You mentioned pioneer couplings? Are they still made, where can I get more information on them. How about couplings from a 'G', will they work in the B's Powr-Trol?

AsI said to my brother about it being difficult to run the loader without live hydraulics, when I get real upset about it I can shut off the tractor and get out the wheel barrow.

The B does have after market power steering, which should help.

Thanks

Mike

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F-I-T

01-10-2003 07:49:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Attatching #45 Loader to JD 50 B in reply to JD50B, 01-09-2003 20:29:38  
Mike:

The Pioneer style coupling is the pretty common design that you can find at most farm supply stores. I bought mine at my JD dealer. They're not very expensive, and ressemble large air compressor couplers.

Frank



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