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F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader.

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Chris

01-03-2003 15:49:21




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Frank,

I know you say you have your loader plumbed out of your powrtrol. Do you have any problems with the oil getting hot. Does it have enough capacity. I was thinking of getting a 45 with hyd tilt for my 60 and capacity of the powrtrol was always my question. Any info is greatly appreciated. You and clooney always give your knowledge and never complain about some of the dumb questions ask. Thanks

Chris

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Paul from MI

01-04-2003 16:20:50




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 Re: F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader. in reply to Chris, 01-03-2003 15:49:21  
Chris,
I've used a Stanhoist loader on my 1941 A for years. I lock the lever in the up position and run the powertrol thru a two valve stack on the loader. I then have power tilt on the bucket, but only lift on the loader. I do have an extra reservoir that runs into the fill hole on the power trol. If I don't use the extra oil capacity I can't reach full lift height. I made some plates from 1/2" steel to fit over the rockshafts and sealed the ends of them with foam&permatex to keep the oil from leaking out, since the reservoir is higher than the powertrol unit. Since they don't make a perfect seal I always park the tractor with the loader all the way up so the oil in the reservoir is in the powertrol unit to prevent leaking. I know it's a bit crude but it's worked for me for a long time. That loader with a 7' blade is a whole lot better than any snow shovel ever made even though hand clutches without live hydraulics aren't the handiest thing in the world. Good luck, Paul

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F-I-T

01-03-2003 16:25:23




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 Re: F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader. in reply to Chris, 01-03-2003 15:49:21  
Chris:

I have never had a problem with the oil getting hot, and it seems to have decent capacity. These old two bangers don't have what you'd call high flow pumps, but the 45W I use does a decent job. I throw the P-trol lever into down position, and then the oil flows to my twin lever valve plumbed for the lift and the bucket. If you lift while tilting the bucket, it gets a bit slow, because it's trying to fill all those cylinder bores at once.

One sure thing to do is to top off the P-trol reservoir after mounting and cycling all the motions to ensure that the cylinders are filled with oil. That will minimize the chance of drawing any air. Non-detergent oil seems to foam less. I know some folks use Hy-gard, and I might go to that some time myself.

I will say that a loader on a hand clutch tractor requires one hand on the clutch, one on the loader valve, and your knees on the steering wheel. It's not as handy as a foot clutch machine.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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Gordon

01-03-2003 18:39:08




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 Re: Re: F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader. in reply to F-I-T, 01-03-2003 16:25:23  
There is an adjusting you turn out to make it a oneway valve. There should be a 2" long nut take it off back set screw out. Use a good 30 weight oil the hyd oil is to light.Years ago the detrgent oil foamd that was no good.



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Earl

01-03-2003 19:18:58




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 Re: Re: Re: F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader. in reply to Gordon, 01-03-2003 18:39:08  
Gordon/
I farmed for 15 years with 2 60 tractors and don't recall any adjusting screw to change from one way to two way. Where is this screw supposed to be and what does it control to change from one way to two way? All I recall is a throttle valve screw for rockshaft drop speed and metering screw for slow lift speed.



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Dave Wis

01-03-2003 17:05:31




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 Re: Re: F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader. in reply to F-I-T, 01-03-2003 16:25:23  
F-I-T, Just a suggestion. I know of a guy that tightens the clutch just enough so it doesn't snap in and runs it with his foot. pushes on it to go forward or backward and it releases when he takes his foot away from the lever.



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OCB

01-04-2003 16:13:13




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 Re: Re: Re: F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader. in reply to Dave Wis, 01-03-2003 17:05:31  
I change the hydralic Raise-Lower lever to the Right side so left hand can be on the steering wheel leaving the right hand for clutch, throttle, loader bucket trip, hydralics and PTO. Of course the foot gets used with the clutch often in the course of normal operation



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DP

01-03-2003 16:18:06




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 Re: F-I-T Ive got a question For you on your 45 loader. in reply to Chris, 01-03-2003 15:49:21  
I've never had the 60 hooked in continous flow, but used to have A GB 880 WorkMaster loader on the 630, and a Greshen dual valve on it. Used it for several years, and never had a problem. It was used as the main tractor/loader in a 80 cow dairy, and clocked many hours.



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