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Bob

12-31-2002 10:33:15

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Is a 9' NH 461 haybine too big for a 1946 all-fuel JD A?

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firedog

01-01-2003 19:37:22

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Re: JD A and haybine in reply to Bob, 12-31-2002 10:33:15

A 9ft haybine likes at least 50hp and live pto.
Strongly suggest that you also service your pto before starting with a 2 cyl tractor and this outfit.

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SamH

01-02-2003 06:20:43

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Re: Re: JD A and haybine in reply to firedog, 01-01-2003 19:37:22

I totally agree. We tried pulling a 9 ft haybine with a 3600 Ford (42 hp)with little success. It worked OK in slow gears until the hay got real heavy. Then it was total overload. I am a JD fan all the way, but the 3600 has a lot more going for it on PTO than a fuel burning A.

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JD70Jim

12-31-2002 19:27:34

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Re: JD A and haybine in reply to Bob, 12-31-2002 10:33:15

Does this '46 A have Powrtrol?

A lot of Mocos and "Haybines" tm require the use of a hydraulic cylinder to raise and lower the cutterbar. My thoughs are that an early powrtrol has about 750 psi, and I would just bet you'd need more than that!

I read on a post from some time ago that 1400 psi was needed to raise a 1209 JD, which is also 9'. The lift cylinders on a NH might be different, and perhaps don't require as much pressure---I just don't know, but I would sure look into it. If the "Haybine" tm will raise and lower using the tractor, I would guess it has enough ommph, but if you don't actually have both pieces of equipment, I suggest hooking the machines up together and checking before buying.

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Paul fromMI

12-31-2002 13:51:43

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Re: JD A and haybine in reply to Bob, 12-31-2002 10:33:15

Shouldn't be too much of a problem. I pulled an International 990 haybine with my 1941 A and it's all original. Made her snort a bit, but that's just good music, and lack of alive PTO makes you plan ahead. Still I did it for several years before I got my D and never had a problem.
Good luck, Happy New Year,
Paul

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Dan

12-31-2002 12:36:15

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Re: JD A and haybine in reply to Bob, 12-31-2002 10:33:15

I suspect it may be too large for the A depending upon how heavy the hay is. The problem is the A does not have live PTO so you can't get the sickle moving before the tractor does. Second thing is that a lot of these old As had rather fast gears. I would suggest a later model tractor with live pto

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