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MIKE HANLEY

12-31-2003 13:26:34




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Ever been to a show and overhere two guys arguing wheather somethine on a tractor or machine is correct or not? While digging deep for info for Henry J on JD 35 loader lettering, here's what I've come up with; JOHN DEERE TRACTORS and EQUIPMENT page 342 states "the 35 was a late introduction for the 330,430,and 435 tractors. No picture. My belife is that it was late enought that there were already pre-production 1010, 2010, and 3010's out in the fields under experimintal tests and the 35 loader was also under experiminatal tests for the 1010/3010 tractors when some said hay that loader will fit the 330/430/435. So some 430' 435's were pulled off the line and sent out to be fitted with the expermintal 35 loaders. True or not, I don't kmow. However even though the 35 was made available for sale while the 330, 430, 435' s were in production, when the parts book came out they covered all the tractors, 330, 430, 435, 1010, 2010, and the 3010. All the pictures in the parts book show the lettering as JOHN DEERE on the boom ahead of the parking stand hole and the 35 between the curve on the boom and the bucket. I belive that those pictures are pictures taken durning pre-production tests. True or not I don't know. On page 57 of JOHN DEERE 30 series PHOTO ARCHIVE is pictured a 435 with a 35 loader with the above discribed lettering. On page 41 of JR Dobb's book second paragraph it states "When did the hole in the front of the grill begin? The answer is there isn't an answer or at least not one that can be documented".....Wel the 435 needed that hole to bolt the front mounting bracket AC11075C of the 35 loader. NOW look at the production dates of the 435 of 04/01/59 to 4/13/60 and the fact that the hole in the grill wasn't on the frist 435's gives some credit to the fact that the 1010/ 3010's were out on experimintal tests and the 35 loader on the 435 was an after thought.

NOW comes some twists. Enter the first sales lit of the 2010 in 1960 and covering the full pages of 2 and 3 and here is pictured a 2010 rowcrow and all the equipment that it was to handel. If one can stop laffing long enough after reading how the 2010 WAS THE REPLACMENT FOR THE 630 and clearing the tears out of your eyes yuo will see right above the 4 bottom semi-mount plow (YEA RIGHT,,,more laffs), is a 35 loader with the JOHN DEERE on the boom and the 35 on the upright of the mast of the frame but still lacking the leaping deere decal at the bend of the boom. Now on page 24 of the same book is pictured a 2010 utlity with a 35 loader with the 35 between the curve of the boom and the bucket. MORE TWISTS; Now look in the 1010 sales lit dated 1964 on page 16 is pictured the 1010 with a 35 loader again with the 35 between the curve of the boom and the bucket.....BIG PROBLEM HERE!!!! The 36-A loader replaced the 35 loader in 1963 ONE YEAR BEFORE this 1010's sales lit. Because in the sales lit book 2010, 3010 4010 INTEGRAL EQUPMENT dated 1963 on page 29 is pictured the 36-A loader and the 35 is now where to be found. What is intresting here is the lettering on the 36-A lacks the mounting instrucions/safety slogan. but go to the loader sales lit dated 1967 the 36-a is pictured WITH the mounting instructions/safty slogan. The ops manuel OM-C17103 show the 36-A loader with the instructions/slogan

This is a simular instrctions/slogan that was on the production 35 loaders. Only the on 35 loader the 35 was on at the top of the mast with the instructions below the 35 and the 36-A had the instructions/slogar at the top of the mast and the 36-A below it.

When we got our 35 loader in 1976, it was still in factory paint and lettering and had the JOHN DEERE split by the parking stand hole on both sides and a leaping DEERE decal on both sides at the curve of the boom, the 35 on both sides at the top of the mast of the frame and the instructions/ safty slogan on the left side only under the 35. When we gave the 35 loader it's first repaint after leaveing the factory, the decal set we got in 1974 had all the factory lettering that was on our 35 loader. OK Which lettering and dates are correct? Well EVERYBODY could be correct depending on what book they have in there hands. All the above books still don't answer all the questions that could arise, but DO give a CLAERER picture. HAY YOU IN THE BACK ROW...PAY ATTENTION!!! I'm giving a written test on this next week.

After thought,,,this is just one piece of equipment with lettering questions. How many more pieses of equipment had the same kind of lettering history.

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Bob Collins

01-02-2004 12:16:36




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 Re: 35 loader,,How arguments start and JD fuels t in reply to MIKE HANLEY, 12-31-2003 13:26:34  
Mike, I don't know anything about the #35 loader but I am impressed with your research and reporting. Thanks for making it all somewhat clear, I ready for the test.. Bob



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ron in MN

12-31-2003 18:05:56




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 Re: 35 loader,,How arguments start and JD fuels t in reply to MIKE HANLEY, 12-31-2003 13:26:34  
John Deere is no different than any other company in this respect. I retired not too long ago from an engineering company (electrical) and I know first hand how difficult it is to keep ALL documentation straight and disseminated to EVERYBODY that needs to know so it all comes out right to the customer. In a large company, there are literally 100s of people that "need to know" when changes are made after a certain point in the design of a new product and if just one doesn't get the message, then there can be wrong documentation sent to customers. Documentation errors don't always need to have a recall, but think about a wrong or faulty part getting out - then a recall must be done. Thankfully in my past, wrong parts didn't happen nearly as often as wrong documentation.

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Henry J

12-31-2003 16:53:10




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 Re: 35 loader,,How arguments start and JD fuels t in reply to MIKE HANLEY, 12-31-2003 13:26:34  
Mike

The saga goes on. My loader came from a farm where pop bought a new 430 W and the 35 loader to go with it. I bought the loader and mounting brackets from the guy and they bolted right up to the ole 420 including the front mount for the drive in bracket.

I don't know much about the mounting bolt that protrudes thru the grill and screws into the vertical steering column, but the pictures in my 420 service manual shows it in all models of the 420.

Happy New Year

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