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720Deere

12-30-2003 20:31:49




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I hate these type posts as much as anybody and I know that opinion is not always an accurate indicator. That being said, I am looking at a JD 80 and would like to get some opinion on price range. The tractor is probably one of the most complete and solid tractors that I have ever seen. No oil leaks, straight tin, pto, single remote hydraulics, flawless pony and good rubber. I have a fair amount of experience with the pricing of row crops, but have not followed the big standards much.

Again, I realize that this is a tricky subject and most people don't like to comment. An opinion must be taken for what it is, and I appreciate any thoughts.

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Alan

12-31-2003 14:07:01




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 Re: John Deere 80 in reply to 720Deere, 12-30-2003 20:31:49  
I bought my 80 last febuary for $4000 in central WI and I felt that was on the low end of the price range for what I thought it was. After buying it and running it on the dyno however, I think it was about right. Don't get me wrong, I'm not whining about my purchase. I'd do it again in a second. I'm just saying I had to spend a little to get it field ready.

If you had the chance to run it on a dyno it would be well worth the trouble. Ours was running only about 45-50 horse when I first brought it home. Keep in mind that this was a tractor that started very well when we test drove it evan though it was sitting in a snowbank in Wisconsin on a cold February night and had not been plugged in. While dynoing it a temp gun was able to tell us alot, also, because one side of the head and exhaust manifold was 150 degree's cooler than the other. We were guessing fuel problems, disconeccted one high pressure line which made almost no differance in power. Disconnected the other, the tractor could barely idle any more. invested $600 in new pumps and tips and now have 80 horse at the PTO.

I've spent a lot more on the tractor since then but that is because I would like to restore it some day. Brandon's estimate of $4-6000 sounds very fair to me for the tractor you describe, but a dyno run can always tell you more.

Hope I was a help, Alan

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Brandon

12-31-2003 17:18:18




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 Re: Re: John Deere 80 in reply to Alan, 12-31-2003 14:07:01  
Alan,

How'd it sound after you got it running good on two cylinders? My 80 sure sounded funny once after changing the fuel filters...had to pull start and it was running on 1 1/2 for a few seconds!

Brandon



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alan

01-02-2004 14:39:42




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 Re: Re: Re: John Deere 80 in reply to Brandon, 12-31-2003 17:18:18  
Better.....for a while. Then the head gasket let loose and we were back to running on one and a half again. The head is currently in my garage so I can polish it and smoth out the passages a little. Then it's getting planed, new valves and seats, and getting put back together. Hopfully it will run good then until the next time it decides to make an assult on my wallet.

Alan:)



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Brandon

12-30-2003 22:05:42




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 Re: John Deere 80 in reply to 720Deere, 12-30-2003 20:31:49  
I bought my 80 for $4700 back in January 2002, and thought it was a decent price. Of course after messing with it, it has more problems than I've thought, but still not horrible. Here is what it looked like:

The major points to look at:
--Does the pony run good, and crank the diesel on full compression
--Good Tires
--If it has powersteering does it act OK
--Does the PTO turn under a load (my PTO turns without a load, but stops when you try to do something with it, needs clutches, and will probably be a $200+ project
--Any tranny noises

In my opinion (of course) the tractor you describe could be worth $4000 and up probably around $6000?

So far I've "invested" nearly $7400 (including purchase) in the tractor. I still need to open up the pony. The tractor transmission makes lots of noise (but I don't want to go there). I have a diary of the stuff I've done to the tractor, including a List of the various costs HERE There is more basic model 80 information there as well.

Good luck! 80s are great tractors!
Brandon
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720Deere

12-31-2003 05:01:47




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 Re: Re: John Deere 80 in reply to Brandon, 12-30-2003 22:05:42  
Thanks Brandon. The 80 that we are looking at is at a JD Dealer. If we get serious, I would certainly make him put it on the dyno. The 80 is a rair beast by production numbers alone. Here in Maryland, you could probably count the number of 80s on your hands. Even the 70 and 720 were considered on the large side for farms around here. I guess I expect to pay a little extra for a local 80 or prepare to make a 1000 mile trip to find one where they are more plentiful. I think they are asking $8500 now (it was $7500 and hasn't sold for 6 months), but I was thinking more like $6000 to $6500. Short of running the tractor and working it on the dyno, it seems like a near perfect specimen. The pony exhaust does not even have a trace of oil residue. I know most bad ponies that I have seen slobber like a saint bernard, this one is clean as a whistle. I hope to go take a closer look this weekend and I will keep you posted.

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Brandon

12-31-2003 09:14:10




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 Re: Re: Re: John Deere 80 in reply to 720Deere, 12-31-2003 05:01:47  
Yep, a dyno would be a good thing to do. The 80 is rated for 67 HP from the BELT, so if they have a PTO dyno, it will show a little less HP due to do losses along the driveline, unless of course it is turned up a little...

Getting it locally is probably best. They always do seem cheaper out of state, but if you figure cost of shipping that heavy beast to you, it isn't cheaper anymore! Besides, locally you can study it as much as you want before buying. After driving 1000 miles to take a look, you probably won't want to look then "Think about it"!

I managed to find my 80 about 5 miles away! I haven't seen many 80s locally. Only about 3 including mine. At one of the bigger JD shows in Ohio, there may have been five.

How is the tractor for lights and gauges? Those little things can add up as well.

Good luck!
Brandon

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Russ

01-01-2004 10:36:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere 80 in reply to Brandon, 12-31-2003 09:14:10  
JD 80/Brandon; Produced in 1955-1956, 3500 made, 471.5 CID, 67.6 PTO hp, max pull 7394 lbs, weight 7850 lbs, depending on condition, collectibility and region lo 2230, med 3620, hi 4630. Depending on buyer resources and auction mania these figures could climb appreciably. They are in the rare category. If you love the restoring challenge securing it may be all that matters.



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