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Steve 541

12-22-2002 13:57:53




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Hope a Ford guy can ask a question here (LOL) . My buddy who gave me a Ford 541 has several tractors in his stable and one of them is a JD 4020. His business is a construction landscaping and he does a lot of work on his back hoes, excavators, bulldozer, 18 wheeler etc, so he�s no novice. He has his JD split to replace the clutch and is ready to put it back. Based on his Ford experience, he needs a 2 stage alignment tool but he�s been told by the JD folks that there is no such thing. The question is then, if there is no such thing, how do you do it? Thanks in adavance for any help....when I'm able to get him an answer you'll have a new convert to AT.com and it'll be a little token to pay him back for his giving me a 541 (and I can tel the "N" Guys forum that you folks are nice too! Happy holidays to all! Steve.

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Lee

12-23-2002 17:36:56




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 Re: Alignment Tool??? in reply to Steve 541, 12-22-2002 13:57:53  
Steve, I gave up using so called alignment tools for clutch plates upon the second use of one. I never had so much troubles with mis-alignment ever again either. Use a flashlight and one good eyeball on it. Do the sides look the same thru the clutch splines or not? If not adjust, if so stab it.



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Dave Wis

12-22-2002 18:05:07




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 Re: Alignment Tool??? in reply to Steve 541, 12-22-2002 13:57:53  
In addition to the tool in I&T that craig mentioned, when you get the discs aligned with it you can lightly jam a small wooden wedge under the outer end of one or two of the PTO fingers to hold that disc in position while you slide the tractor together. The first time you apply the PTO clutch they will fall to the bottom of the clutch housing and be just fine. They only need to be about 1/2" wide and 1" long. Done it that way many times.

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John

12-22-2002 15:47:21




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 Re: Alignment Tool??? in reply to Steve 541, 12-22-2002 13:57:53  
Ayup. I`ve only done three clutch jobs but agree with Bob. One thing that I`ve found makes the job so much easier is to make sure the tractor is blocked up correctly. I put the rear on blocks so it cant pitch fore and aft or sideways. Then put the front end on a steel four wheeled dolly. As the tractor is split the front end rolls away from the rear and keeps the horizontal alignment between the halves. Sometimes depending on clearances I use threaded rods turned into the housings to pull it back together and make small corrections in alignment. Learned alot from my first mistakes.

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Craig-MN

12-22-2002 15:45:06




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 Re: Alignment Tool??? in reply to Steve 541, 12-22-2002 13:57:53  
The I&T service manual for that tractor will have the dimensions for a alignment tool you can make on your metal lathe. No metal lathe? Maybe a wooden tool will last for a few uses.



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Bob

12-22-2002 14:24:35




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 Re: Alignment Tool??? in reply to Steve 541, 12-22-2002 13:57:53  
Align the traction (foot) clutch plate (nearest the flywheel) with an alignment tool in the usual manner. The PTO clutch plate is free to move around because the PTO does not use a spring loaded pressure plate. It is held in the ENGAGED POSITION by the constant pressure of the PTO throwout bearing when in normal operation, just the opposite of most other tractor clutches. Therefore, you do not need to align it. Slowly and carefully move the two halves of the tractor together, in correct alignment, until the splines on the PTO clutch plate are in light contact with the hollow shaft they engage with. Have someone gently rotate the PTO shaft at the rear of the tractor back and forth while you gently work the two halves of the tractor closer together. Proceed GENTLY and it should go together with NO FORCEING.

....Been there, done that, probably 3 dozen times!!

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