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What does it weigh??

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Jon

12-30-2003 04:13:23




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I have recently had an old tractor given to me. I have only seen one pic but it seems to be a JD. 40U. I have to haul it over 1500 mi. Can anyone tell me what the approximate weight is? I'd hate to get there and find out I don't have enough trailer. Thanks in advance.




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Jon

12-30-2003 21:09:09




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
Thanx for all the info Guys. I have a 20' tandem trailer with 6000# axles and all 4 have brakes.
I'm pulling it with a "Light 3/4" Chevy, so it looks like I should be fine over the spectrum. I'll post some pics as soon as "I Git 'er home" Thanx again, and Happy New Year! Jon



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CPeter

12-30-2003 17:30:34




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
I hauled my 420U home on a borrowed trailer with no brakes, a distance of abour 50 miles. I had a short bed 1/2 ton Chevy 4x4 at the time and ir went OK. Rear tires are loaded and front wheels have weights on them. My guess is closer to the 4,500 pound area, but most of that difference is in the loaded tires.

CPeter



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Henry J

12-30-2003 16:36:39




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
Jon

At the time I picked up my 420 Wout of central MO, I rented a car hauler from U-Haul - had to tell them I was hauling a car hehe.

It had impulse brakes. It was a no load deal behind a 250 ford with power stroke. I think you could drag one easy with a 1/2 ton and V 8 is long as you didn't get in a hurry up the mountains. However, I can't remember when I trailered any kind of a load without trailer brakes.

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russ

12-30-2003 16:04:59




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
40U; Digger and Henry win the bet at 2850lbs no extras per JD Tractor Data Book Pg 96. You may
be able to link up with a freight hauler via the internet if you have other priorities on the farm front.



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Rich

12-30-2003 14:51:17




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
I have a 1954 40-S.....no fluid in tires.....no wheel weights..... .no operator, which was weighed on two different scales.One scale was 3030 lbs. and another scale it weighed 3070 lbs. Some of the difference might be how full the gas tank was each time.



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DiggerLarry

12-30-2003 09:46:04




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
JD manual says 2850 lbs. with no fluids or options.



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Putt Putt

12-30-2003 14:12:28




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 Re: Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to DiggerLarry, 12-30-2003 09:46:04  
Larry & Henry, et.al.---

I took my 4500 lb figure from the usually reliable writings of J.R. Hobbs. Actually, it�s from a table that J.R.�s book presents that may well be a John Deere item, from it�s appearance.

I�ve always been curious that the owner�s manual figures were often notoriously conservative. Another example of this is the Model �70� which the owner�s manual presents as weighing 6000- 6200 lbs., depending on front end choice. Real live 70 RC�s, in the field, including my own wide front, row crop gasser run between 7000 and 8000 lbs. when they step on the scales.

Obviously, on the 40 that we were discussing, two hundred pounds of fluids and a two hundred pound operator do not bridge the gap between the owner�s manual figures and the �ready to plow� weights. Tire loading and/or wheel weights and accessories may bring the figures closer but not entirely square.

I�d like to hear from Wayne in Tenn and others that run Dubuques to see if they have actually weighed their 40�s in their work clothes. I don�t mean to present this as �I�m right and you�re wrong�, but to question this fairly significant discrepancy.

Whatever the arrived at figure, I still maintain that Jon would do well to consider adding in a safety factor when he plans his trip to bring his new toy home.

Putt Putt

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Putt Putt

12-30-2003 06:04:33




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
Jon---

A wet Model 40 weighs in at about 4500 lbs. I�d add a at least 10 percent �fudge factor�.

Don�t forget to add the weight of your trailer when assessing the capacity of your tow vehicle.

Good Luck! Post a picture your tractor when you get it home.

Putt Putt



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Henry J

12-30-2003 05:53:08




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 Re: What does it weigh?? in reply to Jon, 12-30-2003 04:13:23  
Jon

The service manual says the shipping weight of the 420U was 2850 lbs.



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