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Clutch Lever....too much play...

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Tye

12-10-2002 05:49:52




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On my JD50 the clutch lever has about 4-6 inches of play from side to side. Does the clutch lever suppose to have this amount of play? It looks like the bolt that attaches the lever to the tractor might be worn. Thanks for any response.




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Thank you everyone for your responses

12-11-2002 05:42:52




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 Re: Clutch Lever....too much play... in reply to Tye, 12-10-2002 05:49:52  
Thanks -Tye



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brian

12-10-2002 13:48:32




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 Re: Clutch Lever....too much play... in reply to Tye, 12-10-2002 05:49:52  
i know a guy that can move his 1foot both ways!!!!



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Clooney

12-10-2002 11:57:12




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 Re: Clutch Lever....too much play... in reply to Tye, 12-10-2002 05:49:52  
Tye, that much lever lateral movement isn't unusual but isn't [as new] either.
~That lever play is usually caused by a stack-up of wear problems with the lever bushing being the worst offender.
~First, before pulling it apart try to measure the lever lateral movement at the pivot pin. Due to pin head to lever wear the pin shoulder will probably have to be shortened that amount.
~Then pull the pin [I strongly suggest a puller made from 2 pieces of steel with a hole it one piece to clear the pin head & holes near the end to use all-thread in]. The pivot pin ear on the 1st reduction cover is easy to break off if a hammer or other force is used.
~Once apart, pull the bushing from the lever & look the pivot pin over for wear. You will at least need the bushing [B-177R] & if the pin is worn it would be a good idea to replace that also [B-180R]. If using the original pin & before re-installing, file or use a lathe to remove .002" less [than was measured before removal] from the shoulder of the pin that seats against the reduction cover ear. That will allow the pin to pull in farther & take most of the play out of the lever. If a new pin is installed, the pin length won't be as big a factor in lever play but it won't take long for the excess lateral play to turn into lever wobble. [a 1-1/4" long bushing doesn't do a good job of stabilizing a 2-1/2' lever]
~While apart it would be a good time to inspect the linkage pins & pin holes for wear. You can try new pins but I have found that in most cases they won't do much & the pin holes will have to be drilled out to the next size pin, or do what I do & that is to drill the holes to the closest size to original that will clean the holes up to a round condition then make custom pins with production sized heads to fit the new holes.

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John T

12-10-2002 09:10:51




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 Re: Clutch Lever....too much play... in reply to Tye, 12-10-2002 05:49:52  
Tye, I hate a lot of slop on those clutch levers myself and most all older tractors have it. You can buy a new pin/bolt and lever bushing at JD often in stock as per below. If shes tight, a good way we get the old pin/bolt out is to use a vibrating air hammer with a blunt end and the lever bushing is usually already worn completely out. I coat plenty of heavy grease on the surfaces during reinstallation and you might want to replace those easy to install pivot pins while youre at it as they are easy and inexpensive. Ol John T Nordhoff

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Ralph in WI

12-10-2002 08:11:01




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 Re: Clutch Lever....too much play... in reply to Tye, 12-10-2002 05:49:52  
I got a new pin and bushing from John Deere last spring for a '50 A.



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G-MAN

12-10-2002 07:27:59




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 Re: Clutch Lever....too much play... in reply to Tye, 12-10-2002 05:49:52  
Tye, the bushing for the end of the lever where it pivots on the shaft is still available from Deere. Part #B177R. If the hole is too worn, a machine shop can probably machine a larger bushing pretty cheap. I don't believe the pin is still available, but you can probably find a NOS one or have your's built back up and turned down to factory diameter. That should return your lever to the proper fit. It can be irritating having that lever flopping around all over, and it won't cost much to make it right again.

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Steve - IN

12-10-2002 06:43:32




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 Re: Clutch Lever....too much play... in reply to Tye, 12-10-2002 05:49:52  
Tye,
Maybe some would say that's part of the charm. I don't think that play on the roll axis will hurt anything - but if you can coax out that round headed bolt at the base - you could shim it up to eliminate some of that - it is a long lever. Also, tight fits further down the linkage on the Y yoke will keep the level standing straight and tall.

The more important thing, I think, is the pitch axis, and having that nice snap fore and aft as an indication that your clutch is healthy -or at least properly adjusted.

Steve

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