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Help Please Clooney

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Tom

12-04-2002 18:06:51




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I am new at this and I just started restoring a 1936 B and have a few qustions. Is the brake handle pivot pin pressed in, or threaded and if threaded, how do you get it out? When I bought the tractor I was told the motor was rebuilt. But, you know how that is. Can I check that with a compression test? The handle that engages the pto doesn't work and feels like it is not connected. What can I look for ? Thank you for the help .Tom

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John T

12-04-2002 19:36:27




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 Re: Help Please Clooney in reply to Tom, 12-04-2002 18:06:51  
Tom, my 38 B had a similar problem but my woodruff key on the PTO bevel gear shaft was sheared. Believe me, it IS POSSIBLE to remove the bevel gear shaft out the bottom without removing any other excess gears etc., but its very tricky and extremely close fit. Good Luck and let us know Ol John T in Indiana



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Tom

12-05-2002 14:10:48




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 Re: Re: Help Please Clooney in reply to John T, 12-04-2002 19:36:27  
John T. sounds like I have the same problem . Thank you I will let you know



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John T

12-05-2002 16:57:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Help Please Clooney in reply to Tom, 12-05-2002 14:10:48  
Good Luck, but what I described is only the problem in the event that lever is really doing its engaging job and all is connected but the woodruf key is sheared. Let us know John T



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Clooney

12-04-2002 18:38:15




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 Re: Help Please Clooney in reply to Tom, 12-04-2002 18:06:51  
Tom, are you talking about the clutch lever or do you have a BR with a brake lever? You can do a compression test on that tractor but should use a good quality screw in gage. Pull both spark plugs out, move the throttle to wide open, makes sure the choke is open & the tractor engine is warm then insert the gage & turn the flywheel by hand. You want to see how much pressure it makes total, & the number of flywheel turns it takes to reach max compression. Unless the compression is real low or more than 10 lbs different from side to side it won't tell you much about what kind of rebuild was done.
~On the PTO shifter; it could be anything from a broken gear to a disconnected or broken internal shift lever or arm, to the lever not connected properly, to the PTO shifter. Does the lever feel like it is hitting or bumping anything when you try to move it? That is one of those things that you will probably have to open it up to see what's wrong. Try lifting the lever & moving it, maybe it can be re-engaged if it came out on the bottom.

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Tom

12-05-2002 14:06:26




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 Re: Re: Help Please Clooney in reply to Clooney, 12-04-2002 18:38:15  
Thanks for the help. Clooney, about the clutch handle pivot point on an unstlyed B - I got the nut off but cannot tell if the bolt(pivot point) is threaded in, or pressed in. If it is threaded in ,how do you remove it? Is there a special tool or do you use a stud remover ? Is around 100 lbs considered good compression ? The pto engaging shaft feels like it is not attached at all. Sounds like it is time to go in and take a look.

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Clooney

12-05-2002 17:35:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Help Please Clooney in reply to Tom, 12-05-2002 14:06:26  
Tom, that clutch lever pivot bolt is a stepped size bolt with fine splines that are a pretty hard press fit in the first reduction cover ear. DON'T beat on it with a hammer to remove it or there is a high risk of breaking the reduction cover ear. You can make a puller using a couple pieces of 3/8"-1/2" thick steel with hole in one to clear the bolt head & a hole in each piece near the ends to put some all-thread through.
~I believe _Mike Aylward_- [email protected] - has those pullers for sale at a reasonable price. [at least he used to].
~On the PTO; if you can't feel the shifter & gear moving it probably isn't gear, shaft or key related but more than likely in the shift lever to lower lever, or the lower shift lever has come out of the shifter assembly. If you can lift the shift lever very far against the spring it has probably come out on the bottom.
~100 lbs compression is high for that un-styled so someone must have put higher compression pistons in at one time....

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