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Robert

11-17-2002 17:42:09




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Whew ,what a relief,the ignition problem thats been giving me fits for past several days is now a bad memory. Yep new sparkplugs just as you said ...(two times,I just would'nt believe it the first time)...thats all she needed.Well anyway she cranks good and seems to have good power (will actually take off in 4th from idle,something it wouldnt do before ).I dont currently have a timing light(mostly because I wouldnt really know what to do with it),but is there a good "sound" or point I could try for by adjusting by ear.The way I got it set now is, I found a point where it seemed to be running kinda fast sounding ,but very smooth ,then turned the distr. to the left and listened as it slowed down and started hearing more distinctive thump thump sound ...this may be a good place to leave it tho ,cause it does seem to crank good ,if you have any comments about this I'd like to hear them.Well thanks very much for all the previous ideas . Robert in La.

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Robert

11-18-2002 18:27:46




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 Re: Clooney ,you were right. in reply to Robert, 11-17-2002 17:42:09  
I appreciate all the advice fellas,I did save the advice for future ref.,and think I'll get a buddy to come over with a light later on for a proper adjustment.She's runnin so good though ,think I'll just enjoy it for a while.

Thanks a heap,Robert



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John T Nordhoff

11-17-2002 20:10:12




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 Re: Clooney ,you were right. in reply to Robert, 11-17-2002 17:42:09  
Robert, youre not far off but nothing beats a timing light to be safe. First of all, if you time by ear at a slow idle, if you advance it till the popping stops and shes super smooth and very quiet, its around 5 to possibly 10 degrees too fast. If you get her there but then retard it till she just starts that popping sound, youre probably around 20 degrees advanced. This of course is hard to describe and experience is about the only teacher and this is no guarantee it would be the same to your ear as mine or that your advance is correct.. Also, if too far advanced, she wants to bump back against the starter which is very tough on them. If she pops super loud at idle under no load, thats the sound of timed too slow. Good Luck, let us all know how she turns out. A fresh set of Autolite 388 in styled or 3077 in unstyled does wonders as Im glad you discovered. John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Clifford

11-18-2002 05:41:50




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 Re: Re: Clooney ,you were right. in reply to John T Nordhoff, 11-17-2002 20:10:12  
Mr. Nordoff.
I have always doubted some or your tractor knowledge but now am now sure you don�t have much. Anybody that would recommend a 3088 or 3077 spark plug for a Dubuque tractor obviously hasn�t worked on one.

By reading your answer to the above post that is not even directed to you it is obvious you can�t even tell advanced from retarded.

Years ago you added some new knowledge to the BB but since you have come back all you seem to do is take Clooneys answers and change the words a little then sign your name. This isn�t meant to start a fight but all you seem to do is add what is already there so there are more long winded misspelled words that we have to wade through to get to the real stuff.

I won�t respond to anything you put on this BB because I won�t perpetuate an on board pissing contest. I will respond by e mail to you.

Clifford T. Radcliff

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don cassese

11-18-2002 19:15:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Clooney ,you were right. in reply to Clifford , 11-18-2002 05:41:50  
being new to the fun of tractor collecting but being very experienced with working in shops, half of the fun is the conversation. If the people responding were jd engineers whose life depnded on the answers they posted, you would have ground to stand on. Being that this is voluntary, and everyone here is of their own free will, just let it be. Enjoy that people respond. If you are always right than you should create your own website that had all the answers and no conversation so you would not have to deal with us ignorant, less than perfect but trying souls.

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CLW

11-18-2002 14:54:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Clooney ,you were right. in reply to Clifford , 11-18-2002 05:41:50  
Mr. Radcliff, I fail to see the point of your post except to try to embarrass Mr. Nordoff. I value all replys I get on this board, including yours. I think it would have been better to e mail Mr. Nordoff in the first place and not posted what you did. Have you every tried to follow Mr. Clooney's post? There ain't much left to say when he gets done. The old saying " If you can't say something nice don't say anything at all." In that spirit "You spell real good."
CLW

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John T Nordhoff

11-18-2002 11:33:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Clooney ,you were right. in reply to Clifford , 11-18-2002 05:41:50  
Clifford, I am sorry to see the post upset you so much. My sole purpose is to try and help, certainly not upset anyone. There are a bunch of fine people here who enjoy helping each other and preserving a part of our countrys heritage and no one is perfect and that certainly includes me. (I still like Autolite 388 in styled and 3077 though in unstyled even thouugh they are hotter than the recommended 386 and 3077 since we mostly parade them and never work them hard at full throttle as designed for, and I recommended a fresh set of plugs in his initial question because they are so cheap and often cure similar problems). I personally thank God to have been born in a country where we are all entitled to voice an opinion (right or wrong) and we all have the right to comment here plus read or not read any posts we may find offensive. I Thank you and all here for the time and help and opinions and am glad to help anywhere I can, to repay all the years when my family and friends and people on this board helped me so much. Good Luck, God Bless, and have a good day. Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Clooney

11-17-2002 19:27:09




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 Re: Clooney ,you were right. in reply to Robert, 11-17-2002 17:42:09  
Robert, timing an engine by sound isn't a good way to get a good setting [when they sound the best there is usually to much advance]. If you are just playing with it you will be ok, but if you are going to work it you really should use a light or at least set the timing statically.
~To time statically; pull the little cover off the timing hole [just behind the oil filter], then pull the front spark plug & turn the engine until you can feel compression on the front plug hole [I usually pull both spark plugs & put the tractor in high gear then move the tractor to get the engine to turn] , keep going slowly until the SPARK mark on the flywheel lines up in the center of the timing hole, then remove the dist. cap, rotor & dust cover, then put a spark plug wire with a plug on it in the coil tower & lay the plug on the block where you can see it, then loosen & turn the distributor body in the running direction about 2", then turn the ign. switch on, then install the rotor & turn & hold the rotor counter-clock wise as far as it will go, then while still holding the rotor counter-clock wise turn the dist. back towards where it was slowly until you see the plug spark. That's it, about as close as you can time it without a light.

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