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John W.

11-14-2002 17:03:15




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Hello everyone, I boght some gas tank liner and it says to clean the tank out with Toluene, Xylene or solvent 100. I've never heard of these before. I was going to Muratic acid. MY tank is badly rusted. Can I use the Muratic acid or should I use the others? And Where do I find them? Thanks for your help in the past!




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Craig-MN

11-15-2002 09:01:35




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 Re: Gas tanks in reply to John W., 11-14-2002 17:03:15  
Toluene and Xylene are found in the paint department (right next to the mineral spirits) of your favorite hardware store, Walmart, home center, or any interior decorating place that sells paint. I never heard of the "solvent 100".



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F-I-T

11-15-2002 07:52:06




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 Re: Gas tanks in reply to John W., 11-14-2002 17:03:15  
John:

Like was said, those aromatic hydrocarbon solvents will cut the organic gums and varnishes, and that said, Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK) is my favorite.

But for the safest, cleanest, job, put a cork in the tank, set it on a two buckets or sawhorses, and fill it with some household lye dissolved in water. Lye (Sodium Hydroxide) will emmulsify the organics, and rinse away cleanly with a shot from a pressure washer or even a garden hose. You might want to let it sit over night. Rinsing with hot water is even better, and it will promote drying the tank. Then swish some Phosphoric Acid in it as a rinse, let sit a bit, then rinse again. Get out all the water you can, and then swish a couple of quarts of diesel fuel inside to oil, so it won't rust until it's installed and filled.

If you fill it carefully with the lye water, you'll be able to check it for leaks at the same time. This has worked well for me.

My 2 cents.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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Craig- Where get phosphoric acid?

11-15-2002 08:54:50




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 Re: Re: Gas tanks in reply to F-I-T, 11-15-2002 07:52:06  
Where does one get the phosphoric acid these days?
Seems to have been outlawed due to phosphate contamination concerns of the environment.



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F-I-T

11-15-2002 14:16:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Gas tanks in reply to Craig- Where get phosphoric acid?, 11-15-2002 08:54:50  
Craig:

I was at my automotive paint/supply store just today and they had Ospho brand on the shelf. I try to find "The Right Stuff". I think it's a bit less expensive. Another brand you sometimes see at shows is "MetalPrep".

F-I-T



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Clooney

11-15-2002 06:17:16




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 Re: Gas tanks in reply to John W., 11-14-2002 17:03:15  
John, the Toluene, Xylene & solvent 100 are all gum cutters & are used to remove accumulated gum & varnish from the tank interior so the liner product can stick & bond. Those products won't help the rust situation though. It sounds like your tank is pretty rusty & probably thin in some places so using Muratic acid will make the tank thinner & have even more holes in it [Muratic acid attacks good metal as well as rust].
~ Probably the rocks or chain in it then being shaken around will dislodge a good portion of the rust, then using a Phosphoric acid product to dissolve & kill the remaining rust would be the safest plan. Some of those tank liner products come with an etching prep to be used before the liner product is poured in & in most cases it is a Phosphoric acid based etching compound.

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Jerry S

11-15-2002 05:34:13




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 Re: Gas tanks in reply to John W., 11-14-2002 17:03:15  
John, I asked a local radiator/gas tank shop and he told me to go to the car wash and use the high pressure water and soap to get all I could get that way then grab some driveway gravel and shake it around to get any major chunks of stuff loose and high pressure wash again. That did the trick and the coating has worked great. Sure won't hurt the tank to wash it with soap and water to see if you get where you want to go. That might make your other product have to take less off.

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Ralph

11-14-2002 21:01:30




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 Re: Gas tanks in reply to John W., 11-14-2002 17:03:15  
I think acetone will do the best job on varnish. For rust I would try remove to the rust physically to whatever extent is possible. (i.e. a lb of fishtank gravel and a couple of cups of water) I would not use muriatic acid. In the lab if one wants to dissolve iron, muriatic acid is the choice. If we wanted to keep rust in solution we used phosphoric acid. It attacks iron only very slowly. I suspect it strips galvnizing.

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Steve - IN

11-14-2002 18:42:19




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 Re: Gas tanks in reply to John W., 11-14-2002 17:03:15  
John W.

All the things you're mentioning are petroleum derivatives -- similar in composition to paint thinner. Muratic acid is a way different sort of animal.

You should be able to find those solvents at a chemical supply house, printing supply house, or even a paint store or auto parts store. Be careful, like paint thinner, they go POOF very easily.

Steve



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