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JD 60 -- electronic ignition

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Richard in Kans

11-06-2002 13:35:49




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Anyone that has put electronic ignition on their tractor how do you feel about it. Is it very difficult and where do you suggest getting the parts? I would assume it's fairly simple. Thanks.




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Bob Folkerts

11-07-2002 04:32:53




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 Re: JD 60 -- electronic ignition in reply to Richard in Kansas, 11-06-2002 13:35:49  

Richard:
In the past year we have converted all our "problem starters" or the ones that seem to eat points. To date we have converted a 520 L.P., 720 L.P., 420 L.P. and a 2520 gas. It has made a huge difference in starting and on the ones that we don't run that often it has helped keep them running smooth. We also have used the Genesee Products type and I'd agree with the post below that it is a fairly simple change over and you can't tell anything has been changed by looking at the outside.

Bob

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Clooney

11-06-2002 17:03:03




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 Re: JD 60 -- electronic ignition in reply to Richard in Kansas, 11-06-2002 13:35:49  
Richard, most gasoline 60's didn't come with by-pass starting but many have been converted. If your 60 has been converted you will have to remove or bypass the resistor to get 12 volts to the distributor for proper E.I. function. ~As others have said it is a simple conversion, just make sure you get the correct polarity E.I. for the polarity of your 60 [it came from the factory as positive ground].
~You won't gain much with just the distributor part of the E.I. kit without adding a higher output coil. No matter what you use for circuit switching [transistor or points & condenser] you are pretty well limited by the coil performance. The reason for an electronic ignition is that it can handle higher current in the switching circuit therefore allowing a higher current [output] coil to be used. There is a slight gain by using a transistor instead of points & condenser due to the quicker switching & lack of arcing but to really get a performance improvement you need a higher output coil. ~The benefit side of an E.I. system is lower maintenance & a little quicker coil collapse. The down side of an E.I. system is when it acts up you are basically dead in the water without new parts.

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Ol John T

11-06-2002 19:41:54




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 Re: Re: JD 60 -- electronic ignition in reply to Clooney, 11-06-2002 17:03:03  
RIGHT ON, the in the distributor portion contains the triggering mechanism (magnet and pick up coil) to operate the coil by replacing the old fashioned mechanical points switch which bounces and arcs and rings, while transistor switching is faster and surer. The coil voltage will only rise to the point needed to arc a plug gap regardless, but even if the current through a stock coil remains the same as with points, the betetr and faster transistior switching still improves efficiency to discharge more spark energy (volts times amps) across the plug gap than with mechanical points. Better yet, a higher energy coil (with a solid state control unit) can draw more current and thereby stores more energy in its magnetic field thereby dumping more across the plug gap at firing, and usually with a way wider plug gap providing for a longer, fatter, hotter current arc with more surface area to better ignite the fuel. Theres still an improvement with even the stock coil if a transistir switch is used, but I agree not as much spark energy as with a higher energy higher current draw coil and utilizing a wider plug gap. Ol John T Nordhoff

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Chuck W

11-06-2002 14:55:17




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 Re: JD 60 -- electronic ignition in reply to Richard in Kansas, 11-06-2002 13:35:49  
I've converted 6/7 tractors and this item is better than 3 point hitch. Much easier starting, no plug fouling. You go from about 25-30,000 volts to 40-45,000 volts. I wouldn't have a JD without it. Purchased mine through Genessee and also helped local dealer put on 2 units. This is one issue you will swear by and not at.



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Ol John T Nordhoff

11-06-2002 14:44:35




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 Re: JD 60 -- electronic ignition in reply to Richard in Kansas, 11-06-2002 13:35:49  
Richard, about all invloved is removal of the points and condensor and replacign it with the magnet and pick up plate and wiring it to the control unit PIECE OF CAKE. They are far superior to the old mechanical points and condensor and develop more spark energy across the plug gap. Good Luck, Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana



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Steve -IN

11-06-2002 13:55:34




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 Re: JD 60 -- electronic ignition in reply to Richard in Kansas, 11-06-2002 13:35:49  
Richard,

Like many things in life, I've thought about it, but haven't done it. My 60 seems to start well. But I have stuck one on a car, and it wasn't very difficult. As I remember, didn't seem I gained that much. Must have a fondness for points and feeler gauges.

This link might be a good place to start if you want to make your 60 solid state, up to date, and really great!

Steve

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