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JD 80 electric start, anyone done it?

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john

11-05-2002 21:31:39




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Has anyone put an electric starter on an 80 instead of the pony? Guess I will have to count teeth per inch and go to the parts store and look for a large deisel starter with the right pinion. Bracket is the easy part. If anyone has done this, I would appreciate the info. Yes I know it wont be original. LOL!

John




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4440 starter

11-06-2002 18:30:37




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 Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to john, 11-05-2002 21:31:39  
Try a 4440 or 4430 starter if you make a bracket Those starters will work on As &Gs I bet will work on your 80 with a little afroengineering



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Brandon

11-06-2002 10:15:29




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 Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to john, 11-05-2002 21:31:39  
I found the advertisement for the electric start conversion. It was in an older Green Magazine, so it might be outdated:

"Electric starter conversions for all two cylinder diesels (except R). Patented 1/2 inch steel brackets with lifetime guarantee. These are the most powerful 12V starters avaliable and come with new rebuilt alternators. Sold as complete units only. Clyde Wilson, Ph 419-668-4595 (evenings). No connection to Wilson Farms. OH"

Hopefully he can help you.

I'll admit freely that I don't like the idea of converting it, but it is your tractor, and what I think doesn't matter because I'm not the guy that has to mess with it. Do what you want.

Brandon

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john

11-06-2002 08:29:52




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 Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to john, 11-05-2002 21:31:39  
It sure ruffles some peoples feathers when u start talking about non original stuff doesnt it?

I use my tractors, they are not just for show. Everytime you go to a gas start deisel the pony is out of gas, points are corroded, or the carb is messing up. Spend 30 minutes to do what an electric start would do in 30 seconds.

The pony is complete, I have all the parts, but it needs a major overhaul plus the clutch and tranny needs work. Starter would be much cheaper, more reliable, and hole lot more fun. If for some reason the bank comes and takes everything, they can have the pony motor to go with. It might be on my lawn mower by then though.

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Clooney

11-06-2002 18:00:05




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 Re: Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to john, 11-06-2002 08:29:52  
John, I guess I have agree with you a little here. Having owned more than a few pony & electric start Deere diesels over the years I will take an electric start over a pony any day of the week [except when it gets down below 20�F]. While the pony is fine if the tractor is used extensively for long duty field use where it is started once in the morning & run all day, it is a pain in the butt if the tractor is used for short chores or lots of short run times. I always seem to run the pony out of fuel when I run down the road to visit someone or shut it down to engage the PTO or hydraulic pump. The little suckers seem to need a little massage when the tractor isn't used for a month or two & they aren't easy to work around. ~I do like the sound of that little pup humming away while it is warming the big guy up, when I'm in the mood to play it isn't a bad system, but when I am in a hurry & need a tractor to do a chore right now that pony is a point of frustration & being that I won't use one without warming it up first I keep thinking that converting to a starting motor wouldn't be a bad idea. ~If I was farming with a pony start & used the tractor for chores & didn't need to start it in cold weather I would convert it to electric in a minute. ~Put that pony on a shelf in the barn, the way pony parts are increasing in value it will make you more money than the stock market will in the next few years.

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JD Ol'timer

11-07-2002 10:54:09




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to Clooney, 11-06-2002 18:00:05  
and lets not forget that pesky fuel shut-off lever that will eventually slip it's tension screw and not shut the pony motor gas off! Then you more problems, like having to drain the pony crankcase of gas, try to readjust the tension screw so the fuel shutoff lever will turn clockwise,counter-clockwise, refill the pony motor gas tank, etc., etc.! I should pull mine & put it on the shelf; the tractor is stored for the winter anyway!

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G-MAN

11-06-2002 08:44:58




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 Re: Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to john, 11-06-2002 08:29:52  
I don't really care what someone else does to their tractor, because they're paying for it, but there is nothing inherently wrong with the pony engine for starting. It was and still is an excellent way to start diesel engines, and will start the engine in conditions where an electric system won't. The items you mention are ordinary maintenance items, and apply to anything mechanical, including the rest of the tractor that the pony engine is attached to. Proper care and maintenance will eliminate those problems. An electric start system can be just as much hassle when improperly maintained. I've seen countless cases where a tractor wouldn't start because of bad batteries, cheap cables and ends, and pretty much everything else you can think of. In my estimation, people that allow their equipment to fall into that type of disrepair deserve all the problems they get, and I'm more than happy to take their money to fix them. Perhaps the only starting system that will work well for them is the original starting system - a crank.

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G Taylor

11-06-2002 07:29:35




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 Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to john, 11-05-2002 21:31:39  
Please keep every part from the starting engine in a sturdy container & clearly labelled where everyone knows where it is.Years later I have found some missing parts in/around sheds but exposure to weather, mud and manure has ruined them.
I've looked at many tractors that "runs good" but where missing or had hacked up expensive to replace starting engine, fenders,three point hitch, sheet parts etc.
The owner/estate heir gets real offended when several thousand dollars are deducted off their tractor offer so that the replacement parts don't push the tractor past it's market value. I've passed up decent factory electric start diesels and paid more money for poorer condition tractors equiped with starting engines. When completed you will have spent as much time and money as repairing the starting engine and be left with a cobbled up tinker tractor.

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Brandon

11-06-2002 00:14:00




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 Re: JD 80 electric start, anyone done it? in reply to john, 11-05-2002 21:31:39  
There is a company in Ohio that sells coversion kits for 80s, etc, to electric start. They advertise in Green Magazine--I'll try to find the ad tomorrow if you want it.

You may also be able to bolt on an 830 electric starter (and bottom plate, etc). I don't know for sure.

I've never done it, I like my little V-4. It smokes plenty but it sure starts my 80 OK. You can do what you want of course, but I suggest thinking more about it.

Good luck,
Brandon

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