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JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!!

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JD G GUY

11-03-2002 18:30:41




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they want 70 some odd dollars for an exhaust pipe for my unstyled B. the thing is is if I wanted a muffler for say my G i could get one for about 30 bucks from the parts store I work at while they dont make the pipe so i gotta go to deere to geyt one and to add insult to injury theyd have to order it! anyone ever made one themselves?




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Dave K

11-08-2002 15:10:37




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
Try buying dealer parts for a fairly new car or truck, say 5 years old! Parts are always expensive and we are fortunate they are even available for the old iron after 50 years or so. Try to get a dealer part for a 50 year old car!

Dave



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Just sell all of JD stuff and go buy a red one!!!!

11-04-2002 15:31:03




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  



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PeteNY

11-04-2002 14:52:08




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
G Guy, actually I think it would be "gyp", but anyway, Deere parts aren't any higher than others as a rule; try buying manifold bolts for a Farmall Super C!!! Whenever we can we get our parts from JD instead of aftermarket. The time, expense and irritation of modifying those after market parts that 80% fit just isn't worth it. Pete



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G-MAN

11-04-2002 10:43:08




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
This subject has been brought up time and again. Deere really isn't that high on most of their parts. It usually seems like they are equal or a little higher on the ones that are easiest to get, and downright reasonable on a lot of the hard to find used stuff. Like was posted, some of the aftermarket companies are substantially higher than Deere, because they're feeding off the myth that Deere is always high on parts. People buy into that and don't even think about trying Deere. They go right to the aftermarket guys who are charging more than Deere, and don't find out they could have got OEM cheaper. Deere really doesn't care if the part fits a brand new tractor or a 50 year old one. They factor in their cost of production or purchase price from another supplier, their cost to stock the part, demand for the part and so on, and then price the part accordingly. Deere also usually offers better availability and a better warranty on their new parts, and usually have the item in stock, or can get it very quickly, which to me is worth a lot.

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mike

11-04-2002 14:50:31




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 Re: Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to G-MAN, 11-04-2002 10:43:08  
Most of the parts guys buy their parts from JD
then resell them to collectors. Dennis Polk does
this at his sale,goes out buys a few thousand
dollars worth of toys,sells them at his auction
to people who think their getting a bargain.



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Dutch

11-04-2002 06:46:28




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
I think it depends on the part. I recently purchased an engine gasket set from my local JD dealer for My AW and it cost $71, Valubuilt wanted 89.99, My rings were $57 from JD and Valubuilt wanted $129.99. The dealer had to order them so I paid for them and they arrived at my door the very next day ( I did not pay for overnight - they had the parts in denver and I'm in the Durango area). I also priced one of the akle bolts for the front of the tractor (the ones that go through and hold the axle to the desired width) and that was $40 for just the bolt...no thanks I'll find another source.
So I think that on some parts they are pricey but so far in my experience (which has been short since I'm a newbie)I have been very pleasantly suprised and the fact that they have parts for 50 plus year old tractors at all is amazing.

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cannonball

11-04-2002 05:52:27




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
hello all think about you can buy it..the companys have to charge so much because they make so few of the old parts..it takes quite a bit for a company to tool up for the old parts..and no i don't work for deere or any company ..i commerically bale hay and run deere equipment, the newest tractor is 1981..but think of the item as a special order item..walk into your parts store and try to get something they don't stock and what happens...wow you know..just be thankful that the companies carry older equipment parts, be a bigger junkyard if they did not...have nice day and may god bless

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OCB

11-04-2002 06:13:27




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 Re: Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to cannonball, 11-04-2002 05:52:27  
Some may remember IH started not stocking parts locally for new machines 40 some years ago. That put poeple in a pickle when trying to get a part for completing a harvest. Where is IH today.
John Deere wants to provide a service at a cost and still be around for our kids to enjoy the OLD IRON with old Name JOHN DEERE.
If you don't like the price, watch prices on Ebay for instant grafication

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CJDave

11-04-2002 02:28:55




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
I've given this a lot of thought over the years and my opinion is that it takes a lot of dough to shepherd these parts and keep track of inventories so that you can actually FIND IT when the time comes. Yeah, they DO get a lot of money for parts, no question about it; but there is a considerable cost connected with inventory and inventory tracking, so overall, I'm OK with it. There have been times that I felt that certain parts were a GYP.....as in Gypsy..... but overall it still seems reasonable, all things considered.

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David Ransom

11-03-2002 21:23:08




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
I don't know how reasonable that price is, but my father did pay about that much recently for a new muffler for a 1993 FORD Festiva.



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Gary in TX

11-03-2002 19:23:40




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
This is a subject that will draw alot of disscussion. I recently posted a discussion parts prices or should I say RAPE. I do custom hay baling and run deere tractors and balers and now have a 1380 hydroswing cutter. Yea parts are high as a cats back, I can relate. I have paid outrageous prices for just a hand full of o-rings to rebuild a cylinder. I know they couldn't cost over .50 each and there were not over 15 of them, well them adn some mis. parts.
It is true that deere offers a great deal of parts for the older machines and thats good that you can get them and they are of good quality. I really think they have the prices marked up way too high. My question is how much profit is enough profit, if you run the people out of business repairing their machines how are you going to stay? Some parts are high others are not however. Its a mixed bag of tricks and you will get various opinions on this. I like Green tractors and will continue to run them but it would be nice if the costs of maintaining them could be more reasonable.

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mike layport

07-11-2005 19:24:06




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 Re: Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to Gary in TX, 11-03-2002 19:23:40  
if your price contious ,how would like to learn how to fix your own injection pumps,injectors and turbos!im trying to get started giving some classes .maybe a 1 or 2 day class.you would find out that there are so many quick fixs,that they dont want you to know.anyone mechanicly inclined should be able to fix 90%of fuel problems.i just started reasearching to do this,but i need feedback to see if it might work.email me&spread the word .i have 20 yr exp.will travelif {enough}

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kenny

11-03-2002 18:57:16




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
Try K&K, I got one from them last year for an unstyled A that I restored for a less than that but I don't know if there is much of a price difference between the A and the B.



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Jim's 50

11-03-2002 18:50:16




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
At least you have an option, can you get the same
part for say a 64 year old Moline, Farmall or maybe Oliver? John Deere is the best hands down when it comes to supplying parts for the products they market. My 2-cents.



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Look at it this way. When you get to 50+ years old, parts to keep you going will be even a bigger jip

11-03-2002 18:42:27




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Will P

11-03-2002 18:39:38




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 Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to JD G GUY, 11-03-2002 18:30:41  
Yes you could have a muffler shop make one. But think for one moment. $70 for a exhaust pipe for your B. YOUR B IS ATLEAST 64 YEARS OLD. You should be happy that you can still get the part from mother Deere.

Will P



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Wayne in Tn.

11-03-2002 20:14:00




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 Re: Re: JD PARTS ARE A JIP!!! in reply to Will P, 11-03-2002 18:39:38  
Yes, I have done my share of griping over Deeres prices. I restore the Dubuque models as a full time endeavor. I spend 5 to 6 days a week doing nothing but rebuilding them. I have even compiled as much info. as I can on a crossover chart for cheaper brands of bearings, seals and minor parts. However, I have changed my attitude towards Deere's prices, these folks are right: what other brands of tractors or old cars can you walk into the dealership and buy parts for 50 and 60 year olds? It's nice to know that when all else fails, (for most things) I can call up my parts man at my local Deere dealer and he will spend the time finding the 50 year old part that I need, even tho I have to dig deeper into the old wallet.

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