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Fuels for an all fuel G

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doug vose

10-29-2002 17:57:28




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I now believe i have proved that a John Deere G will run on anything remotely flammable or combustable.

Yesterday, i was experimenting, and, with the coolant at 140 degrees, I was successfully burning diesel fuel. It was easily moving about, with only a little smoke.

I just thought i would tell everybody my experiments and there outcomes. :)

Next it is to see if it will pull a John Deere KBA disk while burning diesel. My hypothesis is that it will easily do it because when disking burning gasoline, the temperater gets to 200/210 degrees. We'll find out.

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Dan-CA

10-30-2002 22:23:05




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 Re: Fuels for an all fuel G in reply to doug vose, 10-29-2002 17:57:28  
If you don't have access to kerosene (found at airports large enough to supply small jets);then use gas. Our model 70 used to get hot enough plowing to boil the gas in the tank, so my dad would add diesel fuel to raise the boiling temperature.



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CJDave

10-30-2002 09:23:02




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 Re: Fuels for an all fuel G in reply to doug vose, 10-29-2002 17:57:28  
My Dad had an unstyled "A" in the early forties that was all-fuel and they often ran it with "stove oil", which was like a greasy diesel, but slightly more flammable. We also ran our '41 AW all-fuel on a mix of stove oil and gas in the fifties. I was taught to be pretty religious about shutting off the fuel when stopping the engine. Later on, it was difficult to get "stove oil" in CA, and we already knew about the diesel going past the rings so we were cautious about running on Diesel. We had so few hard-pull jobs that we did with wheel tractors that fuel economy wasn't paramount. All the heavy work was done with Cats.

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Clooney

10-29-2002 18:55:45




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 Re: Fuels for an all fuel G in reply to doug vose, 10-29-2002 17:57:28  
Doug, if that "A" was running on #2 diesel at 140� with little smoke there must have been some gasoline mixed with it.
~As a rule they don't run very good on diesel, especially if under 200�. ~If you are going to use diesel in it, make sure to drain the engine oil when done as a lot of unburnt fuel will get past the rings & pollute the oil.
~Kerosene is about the best as far as full combustion & oil protection & will run good with a pleasant smell & little smoke.

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Ray in WA State

10-30-2002 06:02:38




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 Re: Re: Fuels for an all fuel G in reply to Clooney, 10-29-2002 18:55:45  
I used Distilate(Tractor Fuel) In my John Deere "D" back in the mid 50;s. You will lose a couple HP but it wil run on it. One evening I forgot to switch back to gasoline before shutting it down. I spent 4 hours the nex day getting it started. I decided never again the savings wasn't worth the problem. Ray



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John T

10-29-2002 18:08:44




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 Re: Fuels for an all fuel G in reply to doug vose, 10-29-2002 17:57:28  
Yep, all fuel meant alot in those days. They were actually designed so they could run on distillate or "drip fuel" which was about the bottom of the barrell in the refining cycle. A more limiting factor in my opinion is that they be ran at FULL THROTTLE AND HEAVY LOADS which they were designed for to achhieve proper operatign temperatures to reduce carbon build up and prevent plug fouling. I once ran out of gas in my motorhome on the interstate 1 mile from a gas station, so I poured a gallon of coleman fuel and a gallon of diesel in the Chrysler 440 and she ran but smoked and spark knocked terrible but made it in. However, she would not start back up because all the plugs grew a gray looking carbon or mold across the gaps which I quickly changed and headed on my way. Let us know how she does. I would still wonder about plug fouling??? Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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farmuse

10-30-2002 05:24:26




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 Re: Re: Fuels for an all fuel G in reply to John T, 10-29-2002 18:08:44  
My father use to have an old unstyled B that he would burn used motor oil/gas 75to25 in, but if you didn't turn the gas back on and run gas awhile before you stopped the engine it was a real bear to get started again. You had to add the 25% gas to the burnt oil to get it to work well in the carb. Smoked like a freight train.But forget using the oil in the winter!



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