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KEN C.

10-05-2002 20:08:44




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I have a 60 JD with power block and high compression pistons.It just does'nt have enough starter power. The cable going to the starter is long and gets pretty warm when trying to crank it. You have to keep hitting the starter petal over and over again until it finally breaks over.Question is what kind of cable could i run that might carry more amps to the starter.Also bad to melt the battery post and can't keep corrosion down on the post. Would a bigger cable stop any of these problems.The starter has been tested at a shop and said it was fine.Any info would be very helpful.Ken

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Lyle Pfeifer

10-06-2002 14:23:25




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 Re: battery cable blues in reply to KEN C., 10-05-2002 20:08:44  
Ken, get the 00 cable and that should solve your problem. One other thing to check is that both of the amature bearing are not worn out. As you load up the starter it will start to push on the bearing closest to the flywheel. This will show up as a good starter on a test, but will start to drag when installed on your tractor.
Lyle



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Leroy

10-06-2002 06:42:30




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 Re: battery cable blues in reply to KEN C., 10-05-2002 20:08:44  
Take that starter to anouther shop and if they do not find the problem then go to still anouther shop, I had that problem, took three years till a shop found the armature problem, also just had a truck starter problem, shop said starter was ok, finally replaced starter, spins three times as fast now, hidden problem in starter that they couldn't find



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John T

10-06-2002 06:18:12




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 Re: battery cable blues in reply to KEN C., 10-05-2002 20:08:44  
Ken, to start with, I would use 00 Gauge cables and then remove, wire brush and clean, and re attach all battery and cable connections at the frame, starter, battery and grounds. Some of those cheaper cripmed on battery ends can carbon up under the crimp between the wire and terminal and cause heat up and voltage loss even though they appear fine on the outside. If the starter is not dragging or drawing excess current and the battery is well charged and of a high amperage capacity she should, with 00 cables, crank over well. I plan to cover this very topic in an upcoming Green Magazine issue so cheack all the above and let us know. PS a weak battery can cause similar problems?? Good Luck, Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Hugh

10-06-2002 04:59:25




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 Re: battery cable blues in reply to KEN C., 10-05-2002 20:08:44  
Ken, I had a similar problem. Finally had battery cables made at a alternator shop out of no. 2 welding wire. diesel engine cranks like a gas engine now. I agree you need to check all ground connections also. Mine had paint under the ground connection.



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Henry J

10-06-2002 03:30:55




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 Re: battery cable blues in reply to KEN C., 10-05-2002 20:08:44  
Ken

I think I had a similar problem but with a 6 volt system and trying to get enough amps to the right place for the starter to crank well. I wound up having battery cables made out of OO braided copper cables with terminals that were soldered on. Actually, I think the cables had their start as welding cables. They also proved to have the flex that I was looking for because of cramped space. I found the above at a battery and golf cart speacialty shop.

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CJDave

10-05-2002 20:20:56




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 Re: battery cable blues in reply to KEN C., 10-05-2002 20:08:44  
Ken..... .after spending 12+ years behind the lens of an INFRARED camera doing thermographic inspections of electrical systems I can say that most battery-starter arrangements have LOTS of room for improvement. Case in point: I rented a JD backhoe last year and the guy who brought it out said: "You'll have to let it idle during lunch because it won't start hot." I looked at the tractor and saw a BRAND NEW starter, yet they claimed that the starter was "dragging". I saw that the negative battery cable hooked to the battery bracket; which hooked to the dash; which hooked to the hood assembly; which hooked to the transmission/clutch housing; and ON THAT was bolted the starter. At noon I shut the tractor off and when I went to town to get some lunch I went by the auto parts and got a 40" heavy battery cable and a 3/8" star washer. I threw away the braided ground strap and ran my new cable DIRECTLY to the top starter mounting bolt with the star washer against the starter housing and tightened the bolt up real tight. The tractor BLASTED to a start that day and every day since then, hot OR cold. END of problem. Does that give you any ideas?

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KEN C.

10-06-2002 10:32:37




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 Re: Re: battery cable blues in reply to CJDave, 10-05-2002 20:20:56  
Thanks for all the info.I will be trying some of these soon.Will report back soon.Thanks again,Ken.



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