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gy3020

09-27-2002 12:42:45




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Hey everybody,
Got a slight problem here. My 4020 has decided to start dripping on one side of the load control shaft. Priced some parts from deere and about did my shorts. Let me know what Im about to get into here before I start this deal. Will just have to keep the fluid filled temporarily. Need advice, how about those from Boling Machine?
Read about the speedy service from another post but anyone else had any dealings with them? HELP!

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eb77

10-04-2002 19:05:33




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 Re: drip drip drip in reply to gy3020, 09-27-2002 12:42:45  
I used a double cup cylinder seal and it worked fine. I think it will seal better than the JD seals because it is all rubber and has more flexibility to seal on both the shaft and the housing, especially if they are a little rough. There is a drop every now and then, but no big leaks. I think it works better on a rough shaft and housing compare to the JD seal. I don't have the package anymore but the extra seal I have is marked MFS 1.125 XGG USA.

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Jim B

09-29-2002 05:26:11




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 Re: drip drip drip in reply to gy3020, 09-27-2002 12:42:45  
gy3020,you have to pull shaft completely out and lower wishbone that 3pt hooks to.It helps to support wishbone with a hyd.jack as it is heavy.When reinstalling shaft put shim washers between wishbone and trans. housing.They should be avail. from JD.They come in different thicknesses.These washers keep wishbone from sliding side to side and seals last longer.Jim B in Tx.



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Gary

09-29-2002 08:01:48




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 Re: Re: drip drip drip in reply to Jim B, 09-29-2002 05:26:11  
Thanks Jim,
Thats what I was figuring on after I posted that last message. No other way to do really without doing that. I am assuming nothing will get out of alignment when the shaft comes out? I know it has to go through another deal, will that stay where it is? I appreciate the advice, thanks n advance.
Gary



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chris

09-27-2002 19:25:15




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 Re: drip drip drip in reply to gy3020, 09-27-2002 12:42:45  
gy3020, just try the seals first, along with some shims, but leave a little play, unless the shaft looks really bad. But you might find the bushings loose also, JD advises to only replace the bushings as a last resort because the more times they are replaced the chances that they will work loose. JD does make oversize bushings but involves a special tool that takes time to locate. Since they share this tool across the country. I worked in Humphrey NE and the tool came from somebody in Penn. I have put bushings in a loose housing but Liquid Steeled(a JD product) them in. This was in a customers shed and advised him not to use the tractor for a couple days without oil in the tractor, never heard back from him, was a 4030. The prices are crazy so good luck. Grease the seals well before shaft is installed and measure the shaft, then measure from casting to your wheel just in case you have to move your wheel. Shaft should go in with little effort. chris

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chris

09-29-2002 19:47:13




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 Re: Re: drip drip drip in reply to chris, 09-27-2002 19:25:15  
One thing I forgot is that the load control lever needs to be in one position or it puts a bind on the shaft and when you remove the shaft your load control linkage finger that rides against the rockshaft arm shaft falls to the side then you have to remove the valve control housing. And once the load control lever is in position cycle your 3 pt. a couple times and also don't forget to adjust your 3 pt. through the bung on the rear diff. housing. So if you don't have a repair manual best borrow or buy one. chris

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gy3020

09-28-2002 06:28:23




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 Re: Re: drip drip drip in reply to chris, 09-27-2002 19:25:15  
When taking the shaft out is there anything inside that can get out of whack? Can you do one side at a time by pushing the shaft out each way?



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twopop

09-27-2002 18:02:44




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 Re: drip drip drip in reply to gy3020, 09-27-2002 12:42:45  
I read a post one time about boling,the author wasnt very happy about the service.I ordered some for a 3020 and asked for them C.O.D. they shipped immediately and billed me.after insalling them and seeing if they worked,i wouldnt put deere parts in again



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gy3020

09-28-2002 06:24:53




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 Re: Re: drip drip drip in reply to twopop, 09-27-2002 18:02:44  
What all came with what you ordered? Was it just seals or bushings and seals or a modified seal type deal? I am for right now just keeping the thing filled up and keeping it checked.



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twopop

09-28-2002 11:14:04




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 Re: Re: Re: drip drip drip in reply to gy3020, 09-28-2002 06:24:53  
the jd type for the 20 series is just a lip type seal,the boling type is like the type used on the 30 series which is a seal and bushing made together.when taking the shaft out,make sure the draft lever by the seat is set for light draft or you will have trouble putting the shaft back in.i dont grease the seal ,i put hyd.oil on them and stick the shaft in a bucket of new oil to lube it



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