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New (Old???) Trick ???

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Alan

12-23-2003 10:49:40




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I saw this done on a Farmall H yesterday but I'm asking here since this is the page I watch. I was looking at a tractor with a good engine for use in resurecting another H. The tractor I was looking at had only been started once in the last year and had sat outside. It started and ran relitivly well but once we put it on the dyno it kept misfiring occasionally. The air intake pipe was off so the seller took a soda can full of clean cold water and started poaring the water into his hand in front of the carburator inlet. The tractor would nearly stall, he'd stop and let it recover. He did this about three times and then opened it back up on the dyno and it ran fine ever since then. He said that when we started it up after it sat for so long we get carbon particles between the valves and seats and this causes it to miisfire accasionally. The water (or Diesel fuel) basically just washed them away. Has anyone ever heard of this and is there any validity to it.

By the way, the compression test showed all cylinders having 125-130 psi and the dyno read 30 HP even though the oil was cold and I'm sure that reading is not accurate. We bought the engine.

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Alan

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buickanddeere

12-24-2003 07:50:11




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 Re: New (Old???) Trick ??? in reply to Alan, 12-23-2003 10:49:40  
The old D's with water injection had thier combustion chambers steam cleaned. Just pouring water in, can cause hydraulic lock and break parts. The garden hose with a nozzel is the tool of choice here.



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acorange

12-23-2003 16:23:39




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 Re: New (Old???) Trick ??? in reply to Alan, 12-23-2003 10:49:40  
Yeah, what Brian said....I use ATF
It worked well in the late 70's/early 80's on carboned up "grandma cars" at the service station
I worked at. The high temp of burning trans.
fluid would burn ALL carbon off of the valves and pistons.
My 2 cents...



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Putt Putt

12-23-2003 14:10:56




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 Re: New (Old???) Trick ??? in reply to Alan, 12-23-2003 10:49:40  
I used to know this old mechanic that would keep a can of dry rice on his bench. When he wanted to do a cheap tune up on a badly carboned car he'd put it up on fast idle and slowly pour a handful of the rice through the top of the carb. The darndest fog of soot and (stuff) would roll out of the back of the back end of the car. He'd do this two or three times and then take it on a hard test drive and most soot issues were solved. I'm not sure that it could be made to work on updraft carbs and I'm told "instant" rice will not work.

For what it's worth.

Putt Putt

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G-MAN

12-23-2003 11:05:05




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 Re: New (Old???) Trick ??? in reply to Alan, 12-23-2003 10:49:40  
That's an old trick, and a pretty good one, for removing carbon from an engine. When using water, the water gets converted to steam by the combustion process, and the steam removes the carbon. Like you said, you have to go slow while trickling in the water. I've seen it done on old "grandma" cars that were badly carboned up from never being opened up on the road. There are special fluids made for this, but plain old water works like a charm.

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Donny-B

12-23-2003 13:53:36




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 Re: Re: New (Old???) Trick ??? in reply to G-MAN, 12-23-2003 11:05:05  
Learned this trick 30 years ago and it works great. The key is to have a hot engine and pour the water VERY SLOOOOWWW. If you dump the water too fast you stand a chance of cracking the head or piston. Back in the 70's they were selling a "Water Injection Kit" that not only kept the cylinders clean of carbon but also was to increase milage (No first hand knowledge)



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Brian

12-23-2003 10:57:04




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 Re: New (Old???) Trick ??? in reply to Alan, 12-23-2003 10:49:40  
Hi, yes I have done this but I use transmission fluid for it's lubrication and burnability in the engine. It has cleared up some engines that you would swear had a bent valve and were missing very badly.
B



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