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30 AND 40 SERIES FRONT NARROW

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JOSE

09-05-2002 09:31:04




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THE 30 SERIES 4030 4230 4430 4630 FRONT NARROW? THE 40 SERIES 4040 4240 4440 FRONT NARROW? THE LAST FRONT NARROW?




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John

09-05-2002 21:12:29




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 Re: 30 AND 40 SERIES FRONT NARROW in reply to JOSE, 09-05-2002 09:31:04  
The last Deere tractors to have the narrow front was the 30 series and it was the 4430. That was the last one, I've seen a 50 series converted but it took $$ and also took quite a bit of hunting for parts.



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G-MAN

09-06-2002 06:25:04




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 Re: Re: 30 AND 40 SERIES FRONT NARROW in reply to John, 09-05-2002 21:12:29  
I hate to disagree with you, and I'm not trying to start a big war, but the convertible front end was still available in the 4440, just like I posted. Pull a 4440 parts book and look under "steering motor" - there are 3 listed - adjustable front axle, convertible front axle, and replacement. There may not have been any 40 series built with a narrow front, and I don't know how you would go about finding out if there were, but a rollomatic unit will bolt right onto a convertible steering motor, as that was what they were designed for - just like the split pedestals on the two-cylinders.

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tubba_JD420C_ny

09-06-2002 18:12:51




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 Re: Re: Re: 30 AND 40 SERIES FRONT NARROW in reply to G-MAN, 09-06-2002 06:25:04  
According to Don MacMillan, in 1981, a narrow-front 4040, S/N 11759 was delivered to Jim Birk of Hutchinson, Minnesota. It has no ROPS, the convertible front end, three remotes and a Quick-Coupler. (wonder if he still has it?) A picture of this 4040 is in MacMillan's book, "John Deere Tractors Worldwide". Another interesting thing with "off-beat" tractors is that the 1972 brochure introducing the Generation-II models (30-series) shows the 4230 offered in gas, 362 CID, Green Magazine says that about 200 of the gas 4030's were produced, the gas 4230's would be even rarer. Wonder how many of these were produced. just my two cents.

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Mark

09-06-2002 19:38:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 30 AND 40 SERIES FRONT NARROW in reply to tubba_JD420C_ny, 09-06-2002 18:12:51  
From green mag. article two years ago listed 4230 gas production in the low 30's like 33.



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G-MAN

09-05-2002 10:32:36




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 Re: 30 AND 40 SERIES FRONT NARROW in reply to JOSE, 09-05-2002 09:31:04  
The 4030, 4230 and 4420 were available with a convertible front axle arrangement, as was the 4040. The 4240, 4440 and 4640 were not. The convertible front axle tractors use a steering motor with a bearing at the top of the motor spindle to take the thrust and load of a narrow front, unlike the normal axle tractors which use a simple bushing. The convertible motors also have a four bolt flange at the bottom of the spindle, for mounting a rollomatic, steering arm or whatever. The regular motors simply have a tapered and splined end for the steering arm to be bolted on. For those that may not be familiar with the newer tractors, the steering motor is the large casting that is contained between the frame rails at the front. On regular tractors, it also has the bosses for mounting the wide front axle. However, since the 4240 and 4440 were small-frame tractors like the 4040, it wouldn't be too difficult to build a narrow front version of a 4240 or 4440. With some work, it could also be done with a 4630. The 4050, 4250 and so on do not show a convertible steering motor listed, so as far as Waterloo tractors go, the 40 series were apparently the last ones available as narrow fronts. It also probably wouldn't be too hard to install an older steering motor in a newer tractor. I've seen a 6030 with a narrow front, but I didn't get to talk to the guy and I'm not sure how he went about doing it. Anything's possible with enough time and money. One of my "dream" tractors would be an open-station 4440 with a rollomatic front. It wouldn't be very practical, but it would sure be an eye-catcher.

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09-05-2002 09:33:34




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 Re: 30 AND 40 SERIES FRONT NARROW in reply to JOSE, 09-05-2002 09:31:04  
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