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Gear lube, Clooney.

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JD JACK

08-08-2002 15:38:41




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A while back you answered a post of mine on gear lube. I checked me local parts store. They can only get 80w-140 with GL spec 2,3,4,5. I just put all new bearing and some different gears in and some new bushings (JD B). It will be sitting outside all the time and will be used in summer and winter. Will this fluid work good? Will it be hard on the brass bushings and will water mix with it, or will it sperate from it? About $35 for 5 gallons.
Or what do you recommend.

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Clooney

08-08-2002 16:10:25




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 Re: Gear lube, Clooney. in reply to JD JACK, 08-08-2002 15:38:41  
JD JACK, that 80W140 will work, as well as just about any gear oil in the 80 to 140 range. Is it the best choice? Personally I don't think so.
~If it sits outside all the time you might be better off with a GL-4 gear oil as it does handle water better than GL-1 & has less EP additive than GL-5. [hard to find though] ~That oil you are looking at is actually a GL-5 that meets GL-2 through 5 specs. If you are going to use a later GL-5 type gear oil you will probably be better off with straight 90 weight as it will be thicker than the 80W140 under most conditions [the gear oil usually doesn't get that hot in a 2 cylinder tractor so the 80W140 will probably stay close to 80 weight most of the time, also 80W140 is a fuel mileage enhancing gear oil so it is designed to flow easier & not cling as good]. [80W140 is actually 80 weight that doesn't thin any more than 140 weight at high temps]
~The 80W140 will be a little noisier than 140W GL-1 & under the wrong conditions can be a little harder on bronze parts.
~If you shop around you should be able to find a 140 Weight GL-1 gear oil [Chevron still has it in their RPM gear oil series [CPS code 250408] "140 Weight GL-1 spec". look in the yellow pages under bulk oil or oil dealers & find a place the handles Chevron & they should be able to get it for you.

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ROYBOY

08-08-2002 19:45:44




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 Re: Re: Gear lube, Clooney. in reply to Clooney, 08-08-2002 16:10:25  
CLOONEY, I AM JUST ABOUT READY TO FILL MY H, SO WOULD THIS BE BEST FOR MY H ALSO?



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Clooney

08-09-2002 02:45:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Gear lube, Clooney. in reply to ROYBOY, 08-08-2002 19:45:44  
ROYBOY, it depends on the amount of wear, the expected ambient temperature you want to use it at & how noisy it is. ~Most H's are summer play tractors so 140W GL-1 would be the quietest, if winter use is expected then 90W GL-1. If left outside with the possibility of water entering the trans then a GL-4 would probably be best in either 90 or 140 depending on the temperature it will be used at.
~Again, just about any 90 to 140 Weight gear oil will work, the GL-1 in 140 will be just a little quieter & the GL-4 will handle water a little better. The Gl-5 or new GL-7 would be at the bottom of my list though.....

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Terry H

08-08-2002 19:45:43




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 Re: Re: Gear lube, Clooney. in reply to Clooney, 08-08-2002 16:10:25  
Just bought a '50 A and need to change the white stuff in the tranny. I'm going to be using it a lot this winter to push snow. When it's colder than a well diggers brass monkey, isn't 140W a little heavy? I'd like to run a 90W GL-1, but the stores around here look at me like I'm crazy when I ask about it. I talked to a bulk oil dealer who sells Chevron, but doesn't know anything except names and numbers. What should I ask for? Or is the 90W a bad idea?

Thanks

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gwh

08-08-2002 20:02:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Gear lube, Clooney. in reply to Terry H, 08-08-2002 19:45:43  
Terry, GL-1(mineral oil)in 90wt. is no farther than your nearest Walmart or Pep Boys as least around central NY. About $20.00 for 5 gal., now if they only would stock 140wt. gwh



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Terry H

08-08-2002 20:12:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Gear lube, Clooney. in reply to gwh, 08-08-2002 20:02:15  
I know what you mean, shouldn't be that big a deal, but all I can find here in Nebraska is 80-W90 GL-5 type stuff. I guess I'm to close to Lincoln where they cater to the "Urban Cowboys" and not the "Country Plowboys."

Thanks for the tip.

Terry



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