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Q about shifting a 1010

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kb

06-14-2002 21:32:17




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I posted this question below, when I thought the tractor I had looked at was a 1020. It now appears it is a 1010, so I am reposting.

The tractor I looked at has the shifter on the console to the right of the steering wheel. How does this operate? When I tried it out I had a hard time getting it into gear, and I think it had more to do with my not knowing the positions of the gears, than the machine. The shift label was pretty worn, but I could make out Park at the top, and what looked like a six at the bottom. Other than that I was flying blind.

What is the reputation for the brakes on the 1010? The brakes on this tractor almost didn't work at all. Is this just a case of needing pads or adjusting, or is it a trait of the 1010 to stop by way of a wish and a prayer?

The price was $3500. It is a diesel, what kind of rep does the 1010 diesel have? The best thing on the tractor was the power steering, steering this tractor was effortless. The machine also had dual remotes.

At one time this tractor was probably the top of the line of the 1010s.

Any opinions of the machine, shifting it, brakes, etc would be appreciated.

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G Taylor

06-15-2002 05:25:43




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 Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to kb, 06-14-2002 21:32:17  
If it's an agricultural 1010 under serial number 31,000 the shifter will be on the dash with six distinct slots. Three gears up & three gears down. Post 31,001 tractors used a straight or bent single shift lever from the middle top of the transmission. 1010's were built for the 1960 through 1965 production years. If the dash shifter operates front to back with four different slots choices to slide "right" into, they are the range selections for the gears 1&3&R, 2&5&R, 4&7, 6&8. It will be a 2010.
A 1010 is supposed to have two serial number plates. One just above & left of the pto & the other as previously mentioned between the engine oil filter & generator.
If the plates are missing and the seller is keen, what are the odds the tractor is as hot as a two dollar pistol? That means you loose the tractor, the money paid plus the questions how you were in possession of stolen property. Call "Crime Stoppers" .
A diesel 1010/2010 if found running is best just prettied up and parked in a New Generation display from the 110 to 5010. Any gas 1010 is decent or a late 2010 gas isn't too bad.

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Handsome Jim

06-15-2002 19:23:07




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 Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to G Taylor , 06-15-2002 05:25:43  
G. Taylor, We have a 1010 Industrial that has a five speed that shifts on top of the transmission, in fact from the engine on back there is very little difference in the 1010 from the 430 we had years ago. When did JD put the shifter on the dash? Thanks,HJ.



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G Taylor

06-16-2002 11:22:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to Handsome Jim, 06-15-2002 19:23:07  
The industrial 1010's had the dash shifter transplanted to the trans top at #22124 using a bent shift lever handle. Then a straight handle after 31,001 for both 1010's. Ag 1010's stayed with the dash shifter until 31,000.
At 42,000 the transmission front bolt pattern went from four to seven on all 1010's.



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kb

06-15-2002 05:44:22




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 Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to G Taylor , 06-15-2002 05:25:43  
Can you tell me exactly how the shifter is supposed to shift once it slides into the slots on the right side? The emblem is worn and it cannot be seen.

This tractor was a trade-in, the former owner had it for years.



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G Taylor

06-15-2002 06:30:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to kb, 06-15-2002 05:44:22  
Still the matter of BOTH missing serial number plates, what could have happened in 37+ years? Can you afford major repairs next week if this tractor is intended to earn it's keep? Again, a diesel 1010 or 2010 is best painted & parked on display. A 20,30 or 40 series purchased cheap with the 65 cent dollar in Canada would be far more satisfaction. Always on any New Generation tractor, pull the transmission oil filter looking for brake filings.Some tinker on occassion puts 90W gear lube in the trans/brakes/hydraulic/pto/steering system. Once in the range, it's ahead for slow (1,2,4,6 & back for (3,5,7,8). Way over right & back is reverse in the 1st & 2nd range.

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kb

06-15-2002 07:59:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to G Taylor , 06-15-2002 06:30:49  
What missing serial number plates? I didn't check for the serial number. I thought the tractor was an early 1020 because it did not have the big single bolt in the front grill that other 1010s I have seen had. The dealer told me it was a '64 model, when I asked him what year it was. This caused me to erroneously conclude it was a '64 1020, which I now know cannot be true.

I'd love to get in on a Canadian 1020, but shipping to my home in Kentucky would be quite expensive, as would the trip to look at it (I hate to purchase something and not even look at it).

Thanks for all the info. I will likely steer clear of this tractor, considering the rep of the 1010 diesels, now if it was a gas I would likely check it out further.

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G Taylor

06-15-2002 08:59:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to kb, 06-15-2002 07:59:20  
Is suspect it's worse ,a 2010 diesel rather than a 1010 diesel. If the dash shifter has six distinct gates/locations (1010), four ranges/eight gears is a 2010. Good price for a running tractor however if someone is building a 110 through 5010 collection. The 1020 is a gas, the 1120/1130 are three cylinder diesels.All Highly sought after tractors with loaders for small barns & hobby usage. Infact JD did an outstanding job on all Mainhiem built 20,30,40,50 & 55 series tractors. Too bad they have to learn all over again with the 5000 series. They just scared a good portion of market away with them. Best JD can do is start building the Manhiem 55 series again & paint it 5030 series. Trucking on a partly loaded semi is cheap & Kentucky is on the main route to Florida.

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kb

06-15-2002 09:30:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to G Taylor , 06-15-2002 08:59:43  
This one has the 1010 pattern you described. After reading few good things, and lots of bad, about the 1010, I think I'll take a pass.

Thanks for all the info, it will probably save me some $$ in the long run.



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440Sam

06-16-2002 16:48:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Q about shifting a 1010 in reply to kb, 06-15-2002 09:30:57  
If you are from KY and would like to see a 1010 at its worst contact me - I have one disassembled near Lexington - Will put you in it cheep. It is a early wone with a console shifter.



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