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HELP ----40 Pushrods ----any ideas?

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Dave

06-14-2002 21:19:22




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Been using 40 to drag small drag disc...been running fine, until now ! Went to start one day last week after using the night before last week, and would only run on one cylinder. Troubleshot down to bent pushrod...and this thing is bent (looks like spaghetti)...anybody have any ideas as to why it bent...was running fine the night before, shut it off, and tried to restart next day, and this apparently happended at that time. ANy idea where I can get another pushrod????

HELP....I need the tractor running!

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CPeter

06-15-2002 04:58:10




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 Re: HELP ----40 Pushrods ----any ideas? in reply to Dave, 06-14-2002 21:19:22  
I had the same problem on my 420. I think it was caused by a stuck lifter causing the valve to be hit by the piston and that bent the rocker arm shaft. The engine was that way when I bought the tractor and sometimes the lifters still stick in very cold weather. It is definately caused by metal to metal contact between the valve and the piston.



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Clooney

06-15-2002 04:53:27




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 Re: HELP ----40 Pushrods ----any ideas? in reply to Dave, 06-14-2002 21:19:22  
Dave, the usual cause of a bent pushrod is a sticking valve or valve hitting a piston due to over-revving. ~Unless the engine went crazy at high RPM's when you started it I would suspect a stuck or sticking valve due to lack of oil [is there oil in the rocker area?], or carbon on the valve stems, or ? [especially if it was an exhaust valve]
~Use a hammer handle or other means & operate the valve in question to see if it seems to be sticking, make sure you are getting oil to the upper end & that the valve spring is intact & has the same tension as the other springs. Also make sure the rocker arm is free & not binding & not hitting anything.
~If nothing unusual found, it might pay to pull the head to see if the valve struck the piston [not even sure it can on the 40] or there is something in the combustion chamber, & to de-carbon the valves.....

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Steve - IN

06-15-2002 00:52:36




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 Re: HELP ----40 Pushrods ----any ideas? in reply to Dave, 06-14-2002 21:19:22  
Dave,

I've never had this happen on one of my JD's but have had valve train problems on other engines.

here's my mental check list, which I hope will be a guide to you.

1. Camshaft. If one lobe is wiped out, you might get the problems you described. Also, I once had an engine with a cracked block that warped the cam enough to cause it to break. This resulted in too little cam to lifter lift which bent push rods because they were out of time; it's worth checking, but I'd guess that more than 1 out of 4 would have some sort of problem.

2. Lifters or cam followers. A stuck one that didn't go down could make trash out of a push rod by just staying up for a few strokes.

3. Rocker arm - tappet. A maladjusted rocker that forced the valve into the piston could make a push rod shaped the way you've described. Let's hope it hasn't made a big hole into the piston or the valve.

In general, check the valve train for the stuff that the cam pushes against or that the valve is pushed against. It's almost certain that your problem lies there. You've got a 2 cylinder engine. 4 valves. 4 pushrods. One problem out of four ain't bad. Gawd forbid that you had a 12 cylinder engine that that was doing this. (assuming that anybody ever made 12's with pushrods instead of ohc setups.)

best of luck,

Steve

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CPeter

06-16-2002 04:27:34




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 Re: Re: HELP ----40 Pushrods ----any ideas? in reply to Steve - IN, 06-15-2002 00:52:36  
On a 40/420 the valves won't hit the pistons if stuck open. In cold weather, my 420 has stickly lifters and the valves stick open when I try to start it. I loose compression, but no interferance from the pistons/valves. My guess is a stuck valve here and the lifter came up and bent the push rod.



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