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john a kaelin

05-28-2002 17:44:13




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how much care needs to be taken when taping up areas when preparing to sand blasting a tractor i don't mean this to be a stupid question just wondering what areas i need to pay the most attention to it's a 36A John Deere




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Mike P

05-29-2002 05:24:38




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 Re: sandblasting in reply to john a kaelin, 05-28-2002 17:44:13  
I heard a 'needle scaler' works well to prep a heavily encrusted area for blasting or wire brushing.

For reallly nasty grease and dirt, try oven cleaner. It's cheap and will remove just about anything. Just use it outdoors or in a well ventilated area.

Also, there are other alternatives to using sand to blast with. Soda has become pretty popular. It's good on soft metal but you have to wash it off. I also believe there are other products available for blasting that are less intrusive and toxic than sand or soda. Check with a sandblaster manufacturer for other options.

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BIG JOHN

05-29-2002 04:24:34




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 Re: sandblasting in reply to john a kaelin, 05-28-2002 17:44:13  
Sandblasting does a great job if done right, remove EVERYTHING you do not want to have sand get into,Radiator, fuel tank, generator, etc. power wash first. blasting wont remove grease rtv's. seal off anything by taping off. duck tape followed by masking. TIP sandblasting does not like soft rubber like things, It wont make a dent. sealing major pivot points with rtv silicone will help, just remember you cannot pivot that part until you are done. You may have to spned time picking off rtv, but sand won't be present if done right. the final finish will be awesome.
BIG JOHN

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allisguy

05-28-2002 19:31:02




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 Re: sandblasting in reply to john a kaelin, 05-28-2002 17:44:13  
Remember John that the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. It's a good question and I agree that sanblasting these tractors is a bad idea. Preparing a tractor for painting just requires patience and a bit of elbow grease.



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Zack

05-28-2002 19:18:48




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 Re: sandblasting in reply to john a kaelin, 05-28-2002 17:44:13  
Thats the worst thing to do to a tractor sand blast it all together.



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gary

05-28-2002 18:51:26




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 Re: sandblasting in reply to john a kaelin, 05-28-2002 17:44:13  
John,
I agree with what everyone else has said and have one other thing to offer:
Most sandblasting sand contains free silica, which is a known carcinogen. Some places in this area note on the bags that it is not to be used for sandblasting. An alternative that we have used successfully is Black Beauty, which I believe is essentially made from coal slag and is (supposedly) non-hazardous. It costs about twice as much as sand. Although it may be safer, it is similar to sand in that it will find every crook, nook, and cranny. If you are going to use a blasting technique I would do as others have suggested...remove the parts from the tractor and move them as far away as possible to blast or you will end up with a beautiful looking tractor that will never run right. I can't think of any kind of wrapping or taping that will protect your mag, carb, generator, or gas tank from getting sand in them.
Hope that helps,
G

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Seamo

05-28-2002 18:09:40




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 Re: sandblasting in reply to john a kaelin, 05-28-2002 17:44:13  
I personally dont like sand blasting to remove paint. It gets into everything even when you think you have everything sealed off. Posted in this forum is a mixture I am going to try. The man uses red lye, corn starch to make a paste.I hope people that has tried it replies and lets use know how they like it.Earl



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CPeter

05-29-2002 17:43:31




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 Re: Re: sandblasting in reply to Seamo, 05-28-2002 18:09:40  
I buy Black Beauty at the source and it is, in fact, ground up coal slag from coal burning power plants. The last batch I got was $87.00 for 3000 pounds. It is twice that at the auto parts store. This has got to be the dirtiest, filthiest, most intrusive stuff on the face of the earth. I have a log cabin and wanted to clean the outside so after trying all the so called cleaners with no luck, decided to try the sandblaster. Well, 4000 pounds of Black Beauty later it was sparlking clean. Only got about 100 pounds inside the house. I have spent 10 years vacuuming up that 100 pounds and still find the stuff in corners. The only way to use it is on parts removed from the tractor. I use a Tyvec jump suit, premium hood and a high quality resperator and still end up looking like I worked in a coal mine. There are several different grits. I use the fine as it runs better in my TIP 99er and leaves a smoother finish. Super fine is like powder and I don't think it would cut as well.

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Hillbilly

05-28-2002 18:05:16




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 Re: sandblasting in reply to john a kaelin, 05-28-2002 17:44:13  
Anything you don't want sand to get into. It will get into the smallest openings and cause more headaches than you can imagine. BE CAREFUL



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Wayne in Tn.

05-28-2002 18:18:52




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 Re: Re: sandblasting in reply to Hillbilly, 05-28-2002 18:05:16  
The safest way is to remove what parts you want to sandblast (sheet metal,wheels, small parts, ect.) Then do the rest of the tractor by hand, wire brush, power washer, ect. I have expierenced some nightmares with sand in carbs, bearings, gas tanks, ect.



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mike

05-29-2002 17:44:26




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 Re: Re: Re: sandblasting in reply to Wayne in Tn., 05-28-2002 18:18:52  
I agree I have seen bad news in front wheel bearings,clutch pulleys , and brakes. If you must sandblast the main part tear it all apart and clean that stuff out. Also John Deere 2 cyl. tractors are more open to damage because the pulley is open and the brake drums some other tractor brands are more enclosed and harder to get at even for normal service.



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