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jim

12-14-2003 03:42:34

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then with all the other hazards on the road like deer crossing the bevears that dropped a tree acrossed the road over night the cow thats out and standing in the road then worrie about getting pulled over by the law cause don't have seat belt on or headlights on in the rain with all the real problems in the world think the law could be more usefull taking care of the real problems instead of writing tickets for no seat belt or headlights not on in the rain !!!!! !!!!! !!

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Joe P.

12-15-2003 05:23:07

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

Hey Alvy, not using headlights in the rain IS a real problem. There are 2 sides of road safety: things that affect YOU and things that can affect OTHERS. Seatbelt use should be a personal choice, but headlights in rain aren't just so little Alvy can see, THEY ALSO ALLOW OTHERS TO SEE YOU!! In Ohio at least there are new laws for farm machinery to have yellow lights the width of the machine now? Its so other vehicles can see them not so the tractor driver can see. And why do you think automakers put those DRLs on cars? When others on the road can see you easier, accidents are prevented.

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rob

12-16-2003 19:35:51

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to Joe P., 12-15-2003 05:23:07

I think most people could see just fine even in the rain if they'd consentrate on driving more and talking less? On their cel phones that is? And there's already far too many damned law's to live by from everything from having to wear helmets to ride a bike to no smoking in public places, and the like. We need to take a lessen from countries like Mexico where if you'd mention something as unimportant as a drivers licence to the average guy down there they'd look at you as though you were nuts. Your all growen up and should hardly need to have the government babysit you 24/7 is what he'd think! And it's kind of embarasing to know how helpless us adult growen men of North America have become? There's even laws for what we think these day's, and I think I've about had enough of this ridiculousness myself? Perhaps Mexico might not be so bad afterall?

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Alvin

12-14-2003 17:55:18

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

Often wondered who the crazy people driving on roads without lights during a heavey rain storm, guess i got it figured out now. People that don't give a d** about anybody else on the road and drive 20 mph over posted speed cause they got a big picken up.

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John,, Where you at?

12-14-2003 15:14:00

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

I'm curious as all get out what state requires headlights on in the rain, sounds like a ticket is overkill, ought to be a warning type offense. John in lovely free Nebraska

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12-14-2003 18:22:31

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to John,, Where you at?, 12-14-2003 15:14:00

Where I'm at in Maryland, if your wipers are on, your lights have to be on.

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D.L.

12-14-2003 20:33:42

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Re: Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to JA, 12-14-2003 18:22:31

we oughtta call GM, they could probably figure out how to wire the lights into the wiper switch... unless you use them during the day, I mean night, I mean....

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jim

12-14-2003 16:54:51

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to John,, Where you at?, 12-14-2003 15:14:00

new york seatbelt ticket 80.00 jim

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jim

12-14-2003 16:53:07

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to John,, Where you at?, 12-14-2003 15:14:00

you bet new york 10 fine 25 surcharage grand total 35 jim

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jim

12-14-2003 16:58:43

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Re: Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 16:53:07

no headlights on in rain 35 fine jim

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JD-Tractor

12-14-2003 16:17:23

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to John,, Where you at?, 12-14-2003 15:14:00

Hey John.
Welcome to New York the land of..... ....

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ChuckW

12-14-2003 13:54:13

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

I have problem with the game...deer is causing untold property damage and the other day loose of life. Deer came through windshield onto driver. The problem I have is that legislation has forced the seatbelt law...I wore mine before legislation....however they legalized 4 wheelers on the roads and legalized the none use of helmets for motorcyclist. The game deere and turkey was brought into our state (Kentucky) by behind the scenes non elected people and even without a vote in the time when our state is getting more populated. I understand the same people have introduced elk,rattlesnake. I question where our democracy has gone. I used to small game hunt(squirrel) however you can enter the woods without being covered up with deer tick. Personally I wish we had a democracy where the public could vote on these issues.

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Thank General Motors

12-14-2003 13:35:03

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

Thanks to G.M. for all the stupid lights on during the day. Nuthin like having your retinas
nuked at 2 p.m. in the afternoon. Then again they always were the first to start such foolish ideas. It takes away your right to choose, unless
you dont mind applying the e-brake slightly to shut them off(nice touch after you spend 25000 for a vehicle).The Chrysler Corparation hasnt jumped on that D.R.L. bandwagon,wanna know why?
Because its STUPID! P.S. G.M. vehicles DO use the high beams for daylight operation....nice.

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george

12-14-2003 17:08:26

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to Thank General Motors, 12-14-2003 13:35:03

You are obviously not as safetly conscious or as intelligent as the folks at GM. You probably don't wear a seatbelt, Don't wear safety glasses, Paint without a respirator and drink and drive also.

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Terry

12-15-2003 01:42:58

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Re: Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to george, 12-14-2003 17:08:26

I do wear a belt, wear safety glasses (tool and die maker) wear a resperator, dont drink, smarter than the dumb engineers at G.M.

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12-14-2003 12:59:24

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

How about the genius that past me today on 4" of snow on an untreated road. He must have been doing 45 mph. But I guess I am not as smart as him since he had 4WD. Where were they this morning, this guy should have been pulled over and had his license shredded on the spot.

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Stan - this was a really

12-14-2003 12:12:57

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

And then there was the 27 year-old female jogger that had a tree fall on her down here in Florida last week.

Sort of puts the rest to shame, doesn't it?

Stan

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Leroy

12-14-2003 09:28:25

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

Did you know that it is ilegal; Against the law; for a patrol to put anything in an axident report in where a person was killed by a seat belt and observed by the officer that the belt was the cause of death. This happened to my cousin. All those safty reports favoring seat belts are falsified by the non reporting of any inguries or death caused by the belts because it is against the law. THOSE SEAT BELT LAWS ARE UN CONSTITUTIONAL IN TRYING TO MAKE YOU DO SOMETHING THAT IS DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH, the should be fought and thrown out, the goverment just gets a kickback from every one installed is that they require them, not safty

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Larry

12-16-2003 02:01:53

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to Leroy, 12-14-2003 09:28:25

What a load of crap!! You wouldn't want to cite any law in any state that backs up what you just said, would you? Additionally, I've read the Constitution a bunch of times and nowhere in it are seatbelts mentioned.

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12-14-2003 06:31:46

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

You're b*tching about using headlights in the rain? Anybody with any common sense knows this a good practice for your safety as well as other drivers

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Leroy

12-14-2003 09:17:21

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to BJ, 12-14-2003 06:31:46

That headlights on in the rain makes it safer is a falshood, many times I have in the daylight hours have been blinded by the oncoming headlights of a car, now if that car would not have had the lights on then I could have seen it so whitch is safer, if you can see the car or be blinded by lights and have to slam on the brakes and try to stop while the car gets past you without you hitting anything because you can't see? If headlight are on in the rain then they should be on a half power setting like a car I used to have.

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buickanddeere

12-15-2003 12:39:19

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Re: Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to Leroy, 12-14-2003 09:17:21

If oncomming headlights blind you in the daytime. How is your vision affected at night by oncomming head lights?

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jim

12-14-2003 07:46:00

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to BJ, 12-14-2003 06:31:46

not bitching just trying to make a point point i was making was all the normal hazards on the road from wild life then got worrie about getting a ticket cause something as simple as for got to put head lights on

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Larry Dickstein

12-14-2003 06:13:47

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

I'd bet that neither of you folks have ever had to knock on a door at 3 a.m., to explain to hysterical parents that Bobby or Suzie is not coming home. You think that's easier than stopping "real crime"? Hysterical wives are no easier.

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Mike

12-14-2003 04:26:05

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Re: hazards on the road in reply to jim, 12-14-2003 03:42:34

Law enforcement has found out this is a cash cow for them and their jurisdictions. Not much paperwork,most people just pay the tickets. Besides giving out seatbelt tickets is alot easier than stopping real crime.

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eugene

12-14-2003 07:28:56

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to Mike, 12-14-2003 04:26:05

I agree with you. This is just another way for the government to steal money from us.

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daveo

12-14-2003 06:13:32

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Re: Re: hazards on the road in reply to Mike, 12-14-2003 04:26:05

Yep!
I know of a suburb that is called 'Radar Heights' by the locals because of the cash-cow effect!

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