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Karl

10-17-2003 06:24:30




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My 730 gas tractor will not hit on both cylanders until it warms up for a minute. Yesterday I tried to start it and it wouldn`t hit on that cyl. and just flooded itself out. I tried later and had the same results. Do I have a stuck valve? Thanks for help.




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ChuckW

10-17-2003 07:33:37




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 Re: 730 miss in reply to Karl, 10-17-2003 06:24:30  
the white smoke sounds like coolant and this will definitely cause your problem. Maybe a seep into the combustion chamber from head gasket but is sealing off after it heats up. A quick inexpensive fix might be retorquing head bolts. A slight amount of block sealer but not too much. If it is moisture in the cylinder it can be coming any number of several sources, head gasket, possible crack in head,possible leak from water jack(can't say that this model has the same tubes as some of the older models). The problem may even be tough to resolve without a tear down type examination of parts. I believe I would think head gasket first, flush out the tractor good, use water only get it hot and then use some bars stop leak or similar product. If this didn't help stop it, I would pull head and go from there....

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John T

10-17-2003 07:19:18




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 Re: 730 miss in reply to Karl, 10-17-2003 06:24:30  
Good Morning Karl, To answer your question, yes, its possible you have a sticky valve, however, I would take a look at other possible causes such as ignition first.

1) If its always a miss on just that one side, you might take a look at that sides plug and plug wire and the distributor cap and rotor. The same set of points and condensor produces both sides spark, so differences in spark just on one side can be a plug or wire or cap problem.

2) If the plugs are even slightly fouled, try a fresh set first, or try swapping the plugs and wires from side to side to see if the miss then occurs on the opposite cylinder side. If you can get the missing side to change with wire and plug swaps, then its that plug or wire problem. If the miss still remains on that one side, then inspect the cap and rotor for differences in the ends or inner cap terminals and look for cracks or carbon traces. If the cap and rotor are fine and she still always misses on that same side regardless of plugs or wires, then it could be an engine and/or valve problem.

Have you looked at the valve lash settings???

Have you taken a compression test to see if that one side is greatly lower?????

Hopefully its only a plug or wire problem, try those easy cheap thigns first, then suspect a difference or problem in the cap and/or rotor and that and the swapping tests and finally a compression and valve lash check might get the old girl runnign just fine. If a sticky valve problem, you may try some Marvel Mystery or other top cylinder lubricant and get her hot and use her hard and she may be fine. Dont forget to inspect the valve springs for any breaks if youre under the cover, that may be a problem also.

Good Luck n God Bless

John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Clooney

10-17-2003 06:56:41




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 Re: 730 miss in reply to Karl, 10-17-2003 06:24:30  
Karl, you could have almost anything causing that problem, from a partially folded spark plug, to a damp or leaking spark plug wire, to a carbon tracked or wet distributor cap, to a sticking valve, to a leaking intake manifold or gasket, to water entering that cylinder, to closed up ign. points, to a carburetor problem, to ???.
~Probably the place to start is with a NEW properly gapped spark plug & new solid metal core spark plug wire. Then re-set the point gap to .022� on the high point of the distributor cam..
~If the above doesn't help you will have to look for water entering the cylinder overnight or the possibly a sticking valve, or the possibility of a distributor problem..
~It probably wouldn�t hurt to run a cold compression test to see if that cylinder has low initial compression�.
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Karl

10-17-2003 07:25:36




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 Re: Re: 730 miss in reply to Clooney , 10-17-2003 06:56:41  
I put new points plugs and wires on not to long ago. Another thing it puffs a lot of white smoke before it runs right. I thought maybe this was unburnt fuel.



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Clooney

10-17-2003 08:31:22




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 Re: Re: Re: 730 miss in reply to Karl, 10-17-2003 07:25:36  
Karl, that white smoke kind of points to a coolant seep into the effected combustion chamber.
~Get the tractor hot, then let it sit overnight, then pull the spark plug & crank it with the plug out.
~If it spits coolant out you have a leak. ~You can try adding some cooling system stop leak to the radiator to see if the seep stops [in most cases it will]. ~Doing a head re-torque is always a good idea but usually an under torqued head will leak compression as well as coolant.
~It probably wouldn�t hurt to pull the air cleaner lower oil cup to see if that is full of water. That is a common problem on the 2-cylinder Deere�s & your problem could be as easy as cleaning that�
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John T

10-17-2003 07:46:29




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 Re: Re: Re: 730 miss in reply to Karl, 10-17-2003 07:25:36  
Karl, thanks for the updated info about the ignition and white smoke puff. As Chuck pointed out above, I also think that the white puff of smoke is water or coolant versus any unburned fuel which is more of a black color. I agree a good head retorque is the first thing to try. Keep us posted.

Good Luck John T



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Karl

10-17-2003 08:14:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 730 miss in reply to John T, 10-17-2003 07:46:29  
It`ll be tomorrow before I can work on it, and monday before I can relay any results. Thanks for the help.



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