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J.D. 720 1956

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Dave Wallace

05-22-2002 13:56:30




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Can anyone please tell me what make of Donkey engine is fitted, its a V4. not running very well, and spiting black oil out the exhaust pipe.Its a 720. No 7202013.




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F-I-T

05-22-2002 14:11:44




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 Re: J.D. 720 1956 in reply to Dave Wallace, 05-22-2002 13:56:30  
Dave:

The V-4 cranking enine on the 70/80/720/730/820/830/840 two cylinder diesels was built by John Deere. It features 2 coils, one for the dash side, and one for the front side. The pistons operate on common throws for each side, and each coil sparks it respective pair of plugs. This means they spark on the compression stroke as well as the exhaust stroke.

The carburetors, though simple, like to be kept clean, and have a habit of plugging a passage. They came with original cork floats, and by now the float could be terribly deteriorated and debris could be plugging a passage as well.

The oil return passages in the heads are very small, and can plug easily. This could allow oil to roll over down the valve guides and into the combustion chamber. These engines also had a history of being started cold, moved immediately to high speed to start the engine, then shut down before getting a chance to warm up. This led to premature ring wear. The engine shold be allowed to run out of fuel after each start. There is a dash mounted valve for this purpose.

Is it the Pony engine that is spitting oil or is the main engine spitting oil ? The big engine generally spits oil when the oil control rings are worn out, along with worn injector nozzles allowing unburnt fuel to exit the muffler in a black drizzle.

Just finished going through the pony and main engine on my 70D and mine had all these symptoms.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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Jhill

05-23-2002 08:42:05




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 Re: Re: J.D. 720 1956 in reply to F-I-T, 05-22-2002 14:11:44  
I had to snicker a little about your comment on starting the ponies cold and going right to high speed since Idle in 4400 rpm and operating speed is 4800. It's a wonder they lasted very well. I suppose JD didn't want the farmers lugging them by running them at a low idle.



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F-I-T

05-23-2002 09:07:58




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 Re: Re: Re: J.D. 720 1956 in reply to Jhill, 05-23-2002 08:42:05  
Jhill:

My book shows idle at 3,000 rpm, and load rpm as 5500 rpm. That's why I said the move from idle to fast idle was such a shock. If it's set right, it's a pretty significant difference. I think the idle sound is pretty tame (though I might have mine running a little slow !) but if you don't have a muffler on it, at high speed it rips like a chainsaw !

F-I-T



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