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'44 B started ! Go figure.

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KEG

05-11-2002 21:16:54




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Got my '44 B handcrank about a month ago and it wouldn't start unless pulled. Several suggestions from this list have helped, but it still wouldn't start without pulling. I put in new plugs, rechecked and gapped the new points, put in new solid wires (got a good blue spark from that), checked and set the timing, new gas, cleaned out the carb and still no luck.

Although, many suggested a mag rebuild (Wico C), but I had been hoping to avoid spending the money and time for that one. Probably fooling myself, but it wouldn't be the first time. I just felt it HAD to start. Afterall, a good blue spark at top dead center and getting gas !?!?

I was also told that I needed to find the sweet spot for the throttle. So two weeks of cranking with throttle set low - set middle - set all the way open and with the choke set in just about every position, alas, no luck. (I started wishing for an electric start after a while!)

So today, I go out, set the throttle wide open - no choke, and give it a crank just for the heck of it. And what do you know - she starts right up; ran beautifully, and idled smooth. I didn't ask any questions. Just got on and took 'er for a spin. Sure was fun.

I'll try again tomorrow just to see if it was a fluke. But until then I'll sleep a little easier tonight and dream pleasant green thoughts.

KEG

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gy3020

05-13-2002 00:00:26




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 Re: '44 B started ! Go figure. in reply to KEG, 05-11-2002 21:16:54  
On my dads 41 B, we would put the throttle wide open, open the petcocks, close the drain on the carb., open the fuel valve(s), set on full choke, turn flywheel(usually 2 times) till she hit once and then open the choke to run position. The B is on my mind to restore by the way, I am looking forward to seeing it like new.



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phil

05-12-2002 10:47:02




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 Re: '44 B started ! Go figure. in reply to KEG, 05-11-2002 21:16:54  
KEG, the throttle lever position may not matter much - mine starts about the same from any position. But it's easier to KEEP it running with the lever in the 1/4 to 1/2 position. If you watch the carb when you move the lever, you'll see that the throttle valve is full-open when the lever reaches about 1/3 so any lever position above 1/3 is full-open when you are cranking. I would guess that you have a very good fitting choke valve (and a stuck bypass?) & that you are not getting enough air to the cylinder on the first intake stroke - too much raw gas - instant flooding. I would try it with the choke at 1/2 on, throttle anywhere.

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Bguy

05-12-2002 06:51:10




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 Re: '44 B started ! Go figure. in reply to KEG, 05-11-2002 21:16:54  
Mine likes full throttle with 3/4 choke first turn and full throttle with 1/4 choke the second turn. It starts alot of times on that 1st turn and will always start at least on the second turn. It's taken me a few months to get this figured out, maybe I'm a slow learner :) These things almost all have there own personality and you have to find the choke/throttle combination yours like best, it sounds like your close. I still get a charge out of turning that wheel and hearing it fire up.

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Kerry

05-12-2002 06:44:02




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 Re: '44 B started ! Go figure. in reply to KEG, 05-11-2002 21:16:54  
Hope it works for you!! If it turns out it was a fluke that it started with the throttle wide open, it means that you already had it flooded. Now that you know it will start, just keep experimenting until you get the right combination. Try not to flood it or it will work you to death. If you have questions about if it's getting flooded or getting enough gas, pull a plug and look at it.

My 50LP likes to start all the way at idle, but it's electric start and propane so not a good comparison.

Good luck,
Kerry

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RLA

05-12-2002 03:25:58




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 Re: '44 B started ! Go figure. in reply to KEG, 05-11-2002 21:16:54  
I'll bet it was a fluke, not many deere's around here like much throttle at all? RLA



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