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'30 Model D

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Howard H.

05-04-2002 21:47:45




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Hi All,

I found a nice '30 model D on full steel at a farm sale today - the main problem is it is stuck and the block has an old weld (apparently tight, but not exactly a neat job) where someone scrimped on the anti-freeze a little too close one winter.

I mainly bought it because I needed a set of front steel wheels and a rear axle housing for my '28 D.

After the sale, a guy came up and asked if I knew how rare that D was - according to him, the flywheel has some special keyway in it that makes it fairly rare.

Between his comments and admiring it in the rear view mirror all the way home, I'm wondering if I shouldn't keep it together...

Anyone heard of the "keyway" flywheel?

It looks like a normal D flywheel to me - maybe 6-8 spline...


Thanks for any light on the subject!!
Howard H.

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Bad Brad

11-06-2002 11:03:24




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 Re: '30 Model D in reply to Howard H., 05-04-2002 21:47:45  
According to JD the cranks with a single keyway were produced prior to 1926. I have a letter from the archives that backs this up. I had a D that I was trying to identify but had no serial number to check against. the only distinguishing factor was the crank's single keyway. The nickle hole flywheels are rare but in respect to the spoked type, if you find them at an auction, both will bring a good some of greenbacks to allow you to load them on you trailer.

Bad Brad

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Johan

05-05-2002 09:27:58




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 Re: '30 Model D in reply to Howard H., 05-04-2002 21:47:45  
According to "John Deere Tractors and Equipment" Volume One, model D serial numbers 36249 to 53387 had keyed solid flywheels. Splined flywheels followed.



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Dan

05-05-2002 07:51:35




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 Re: '30 Model D in reply to Howard H., 05-04-2002 21:47:45  
If its as complete as you say it is, I would tend to keep it complete and continue looking for parts or for more of a parts tractor. I don't think something that old is coming down in value yet. Its most unique if it was a spoker but I don't think they were made as late as 1930.



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Richard

05-05-2002 05:52:56




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 Re: '30 Model D in reply to Howard H., 05-04-2002 21:47:45  
I don't know everything, but the only two rare fly wheels I'm aware of on the D's were the spoked, and the nickel hole fly wheels.



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Howard H.

05-05-2002 07:36:55




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 Re: Re: '30 Model D in reply to Richard, 05-05-2002 05:52:56  
Thanks for replying!

What is a "nickel hole" flywheel? How do you identify one of those?



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Brandon

05-05-2002 17:29:47




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 Re: Re: Re: '30 Model D in reply to Howard H., 05-05-2002 07:36:55  
Ds (with solid flywheels) have two holes around the center of the flywheel. Most of the holes are about two inches in diameter. However, there were a small amount made with holes about the size of a nickel (thus the nickname). It was found that these holes weren't large enough to stop cracking, and Deere switched to the larger hole design.

Not too many were made with the nickle flyweels, and many may have been switched later in life to the newer design, making them pretty rare. Actaully rarer than the spokers I think.

If anybody can add more info, or corrections feel free. My parts book isn't too clear with the flywheel changes.
Brandon

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Brandon

05-04-2002 22:18:02




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 Re: '30 Model D in reply to Howard H., 05-04-2002 21:47:45  
I don't know what that guy was talking about. There were solid flywheels with keyways, but they were in 1926 and 1927. There were a couple different splined flywheels that were changed around the time yours was made, but I don't think that would make a difference.

Brandon



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