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52 B dont start but runs good

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39B

04-30-2002 18:50:06




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have a 52 B, runs good but cant get it started!! it runs great though!! It doesnt seem to be starting should I - get a new battery ----- ----- ----- --what do i do with the MAG
----- ----- ----- --check the plugs??? HELP




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John T

04-30-2002 19:09:48




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 Re: 52 B dont start but runs good in reply to 39B, 04-30-2002 18:50:06  
Like ol clopney, if we had a lil more info we would be better equipped to help diagnose ur problem, However, I will toss a few things out. A good running although hard starting mag equipped tractor makes me first suspect a weak mag spring, then corroded or improperly set points or burned or pitted points perhaps. Even if the battery is weak and turns her over slowly, if the mags trip spring and release are fine, you still get a good decent spark even at like real slow hand crank speeds so Im not thinking a battery problem off hand. The choke problem can be inside that choke spring cylinder or the choke buterfly making her never really close like she needs to at cold initial start up. Look at the choke to see if its actually closing and listen to the mag wehn you turn her over by hand plus all clooney asked about and post back and we can hopefully diagnose the problem. Ol John T

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Clooney

04-30-2002 18:59:08




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 Re: 52 B dont start but runs good in reply to 39B, 04-30-2002 18:50:06  
39B, does the mag snap when you turn the flywheel to start it? If no snap you might have a broken impulse spring or other impulse problem.
~Give us a little more information on the starting problem, when is the last time it started good?
~Does the battery turn it over good?
~Does the mag snap when it is turned over?
~Does it have a blue or yellow spark? ~Does the choke appear to work?
~Will the choke stall the engine if pulled with the engine running?

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Mark Scholten

04-30-2002 19:34:40




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 Re: Re: 52 B dont start but runs good in reply to Clooney, 04-30-2002 18:59:08  
My curiosity has the best of me. If it doesn't start, how can it run good?



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F-I-T

05-01-2002 05:15:12




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 Re: Re: Re: 52 B dont start but runs good in reply to Mark Scholten, 04-30-2002 19:34:40  
Mark:

Clooney and John T are having him check out the mag impulse drive because that gives the mag a "kick" in order to create a spark at low rpm's like cranking or hand turning. At operating rpm, the mag overrides this feature, since the engine speed is adequate to create mag speed to generate the spark. If you pull down a mag driven engine that has an impulse drive, you can begin to hear the mag click as the impulse kicks in to keep the mag spinning fast enough to make spark.

In fact, if you put the mag in a vise, and turn the drive lug very slowly, when you get to the point where the mag "indexes" it will release and spin very fast by spring power, and it will spark.

That's why on a well tuned 2 cylinder, you don't have to turn it very fast at all to get a good spark and possibly start. So, if the engine won't start at cranking speeds, but will from say belt or pull starting, it could be because the mag is now turning fast enough to make a spark.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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