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Kevin Black

04-28-2002 04:03:45




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Let me ask a stupid question. When hand cranking an unstlyed John Deere tractor what, in the Mag. makes the clicking noise you hear every time the mag. fires? I have a John Deere AR with a Wico mag on it and it doesn't click anymore. There is still spark to the plugs. Can't get the old beast running though.




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John T

04-28-2002 15:59:16




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 Re: AR Mag. in reply to Kevin Black, 04-28-2002 04:03:45  
Kevin, a magneto produces the electrical power it needs (volts times amps) by passing a permanent magnet past a coil, and the faster rpm the magnet passes by that coil, the more energy is imparted into the coil, However, at the slow hand crank speeds, there is hardly any energy imparted into the coil at all. Therefore, to start a hand cranker, there is a spring that winds up and tightens and then at the right time, it trips and whirls that rotor magnet quickly by the coil so it starts. The click you hear is the dogs trippin and the spring releasing when it fires. Then at approximately 250 RPM, the spring and trip dogs mechanism are no longer needed or work and she fires on her own. Needless to say, if shes not winding up that spring and tripping and clicking over, the spark is weak or non existent. Remove the mag and inspect to see if the spring is broken or the trip assembly is not catching and working and releasing. Ol John T Nordhoff in Indiana

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Clooney

04-28-2002 05:13:30




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 Re: AR Mag. in reply to Kevin Black, 04-28-2002 04:03:45  
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Kevin, you didn't say what type (model) Wico mag you are working with. It doesn't make any difference on the failure mode, but could on the parts to repair it.
~It sounds like you have a broken impulse spring [#3] as that is the usual failure when the mag quits snapping. (there could other reasons but that is the most likely).
~When replacing the spring; pay attention to the direction the old one was wound, then lightly oil the spring, then clamp the drive cup (#2) in a vise & wind the spring inside it (be careful not to nick the spring with a screw driver or pliers when installing) then pull the inner spring end out slightly, then install the cup (#2) on the mag so the spring inner end engages the notch in the drive cup spacer washers, then push the cup on, then clamp the rotor shaft (points end) [#23] in a padded vise (must have soft protected jaws), then pull the cup (#2) out until the projections clear the flange, then wind the spring & drive cup 1 complete turn (it is easier to wind it 1/2 turn then push it on, then get another hold on it, pull it out again & make another 1/2 turn), when it is wound 1 turn push the cup on, then put a little grease on the outside of the nut & install & tighten the nut.
~Click on URL below for Roberts Carb, then go to mags, if you have a Wico C or X he will have parts at a reasonable price. Deere will also have some of the parts yet. If you have an AP or other Wico & can't find parts, E-Mail me for other sources....

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