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Bleeding a 730 Diesel

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farmerherron

04-27-2002 17:23:08




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Took the sediment bowl off to fix. Put it back on and turned on valve, some fuel dripped in and then stopped leaving an air pocket. Cranked motor and sediment bowl filled with fuel. Ran for a minute and then stopped. Won't restart. Bleed fuel filters but still won't start. Is their a bleed valve for the injectors?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Chris




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blksmok

04-27-2002 17:51:23




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 Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to farmerherron, 04-27-2002 17:23:08  
Farmer...there are two bleed ports on the fuel filter assembly and one on the left side of the tractor on the end of the fuel rack. You must have fuel(w/o air bubbles)running freely out of them just from gravitational flow before the engine will start.



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farmerherron

04-28-2002 05:40:01




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 Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to blksmok, 04-27-2002 17:51:23  
blksmok...do you have to take the cylinder cover off to get to the fuel rack bleed or can you get to it from the outside?

Thanks



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F-I-T

04-28-2002 06:22:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to farmerherron, 04-28-2002 05:40:01  
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Farmerherron:

No, you don't have to remove the cylinder cover. The bleed screw is located in the center of the odd looking "double-nut" pipe that exits the left side of the engine block near the governor control linkage. You just remove it, and allow fuel to flow bubble free.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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farmerherron

04-28-2002 08:37:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to F-I-T, 04-28-2002 06:22:10  
F-I-T,

Can't seem to find this "double-nut" pipe. Took off govenor linkage housing to reveal nothing but the side of the engine block and a push rod for govenor control. Can you explain more of where this "double-nut" pipe is?

Thanks



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F-I-T

04-28-2002 11:18:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to farmerherron, 04-28-2002 08:37:20  
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FH:

Ok, here it is, fresh from the camera.

If you had the governor link housing off, you removed the fuel rail pipe that contains the bleed screw in it's end.

Hope the picture helps.

F-I-T



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farmerherron

04-28-2002 13:20:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to F-I-T, 04-28-2002 11:18:54  
F-I-T,

Thanks for the help but my 730 does not have a bleed valve there. I took the cylinder cover off and still couldn't find a bleed valve. Maybe the later production models were changed? Maybe they went to an auto bleed system? Looks like you have a pretty nice 730.

Tbanks again for the help.



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F-I-T

04-28-2002 13:45:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to farmerherron, 04-28-2002 13:20:01  
Farmerherron:

Ok, here's what I can surmise. There appears to be a piston/relief valve arrangement between the fuel rail/pump mounting bracket and the pumps. Not sure if it's on the left or right side. This appears to be an auto bleed on late 730's.

So, to get you going, you crack an injector nut just enough to allow fuel to leak/spray out while cranking, and that should void the air if indeed the auto bleed is not working. If you crack them both it will guarantee that they will be free fron air. Best if you tighten them while it is craning, though.

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't notice the extra paraphernalia in the drawing the first time. I pretty much have my old 70D committed to memory.

Learn something new every day !

Frank

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farmerherron

04-28-2002 18:19:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to F-I-T, 04-28-2002 13:45:41  
Frank,

Cracked the injector nut and cranked the engine until fuel spit out. Did both sides and reassembled. Started right up. I'll never make that mistake again. Thanks alot for the help. I learn something new every time I work on these things.

Chris



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F-I-T

04-28-2002 19:20:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to farmerherron, 04-28-2002 18:19:35  
Chris:

Good Deal !

Sorry I led you astray on the bleed screw. I'm not so sure they made an improvement with the auto-bleed. It's a piece of cake on the 70D since you already have the wrench in your hand for the filters. You just loosen the two at the filter and the one on the side, then tighten them up 1-2-3 as the fuel spills.

Happy Poppin !

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855



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bw

04-28-2002 11:50:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to F-I-T, 04-28-2002 11:18:54  
were all the 730's the same as your picture shows? i looked at my housing and there is no bleed screw like that. But, on the other side of the block (right side)there is a large (what appears to be) bleed screw with an alum. washer. Im asking because i do not know! maybe i have the wrong housing cover!



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F-I-T

04-28-2002 13:55:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to bw, 04-28-2002 11:50:18  
BW:

Looks like there was a design change with the late 720, or 730 models.

I don't have an operator's manual, so I just can't say for certain.

Frank



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BW

04-28-2002 15:25:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to F-I-T, 04-28-2002 13:55:01  
I looked in the OM and found nothing about bleeding beyond the filters. i took out the plug on the right side that i thought could be a bleed screw and its not.



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farmerherron

04-28-2002 06:37:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Bleeding a 730 Diesel in reply to F-I-T, 04-28-2002 06:22:10  
Great...thanks Frank-in-Tallahassee. You saved me lots of time and work.



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