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Factory options--RolloMatic

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burns

04-04-2002 05:19:15




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We have an A, BN, H and G all without roll-o-matics. I really can't say that we tried to find them that way. But I was curious if anyone had numbers or any ideas on the roll-o-matic option coming from the factory. Did it eventually become a standard option on tractors? Any idea what they would cost new? Just curious

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4020Man

04-08-2002 14:28:58




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
I have a perfectly good ROM that fits a 3010 to 4020 series. Anyone have an interest?



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burns.....thanks guys.....nt

04-05-2002 08:44:38




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
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JDGnut

04-04-2002 21:12:45




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
Also remember if its a wide front it is also a split front pedistal.. at least on most.. a few of the B's were different, like the antear nose tractors..
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burns

04-05-2002 08:44:01




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 Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to JDGnut, 04-04-2002 21:12:45  
We purchased two BN's together. It took 2 tractors to make 1 good one. The one had a 16" front wheel and the other is the short fat one. I used the short one because of the split pedistal. I was amazed how heavy the yoke frame, wheel and cast center is on that BN. I also like the serial number of 237000. Little unique but certainly not worth anything.



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50man

04-04-2002 19:36:16




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
They also offered heavy duty roll-a-matics. I have seen these on 730's. You can tell them apart because they have 4 bolts on the inside bearing caps instead of 3. They also had different hubs which allowed wider wheels with 7.5L-15 tires I believe.



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Deere Jon 2000

04-04-2002 12:49:05




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
The information on Rollo-o-Matics below is correct, it was always an option. I even seen one on a 706 Farmall, yes, it was green. The two piece (split-pedistal) unit is very rare in the lettered series. I've only seen 1 on a very late '52 G. The greatest advantage of the Rollo-o-Matic was in plowing. If you've ever plowed all day with a non-power-steering narrow-front tractor, especially a heavy one like a G, you'd see the advantage. When you put the rear wheel in the furrow, the tractor naturally steers in that direction (ala, tipping the wheels on a road grader). It also saved a lot of blown tired on loader tractors because it equalizes the pressure between the two front tires.

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Greg H.

04-04-2002 09:12:17




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
Burns, I don't know when it became an option, but just like Jerry, and someone else stated below, it never was standard. a neighbor of mine and I both have 1966 4020 gas models made about 5000 units apart from each other. Mine has a rollamatic, his has a fixed axle narrow front end. Just passing along what I've seen, good luck finding out your info. Greg H.



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Todd

04-04-2002 08:10:53




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
The rollomatic option was introduced in the year of 1947, however through the letter series it was an option, although 90% of the tractors had them. I had a 1948 A with the non rollomatic front. The H never had one, and the AN, BN, GN never used that setup. I beleive the in the first numbered series it became standard. I have never seen a 50, 60, 70 rowcrop without the rollomatic. I'm not one of these people that bury themselves learning info such as what came out with this serial number, studying archives, dates, etc. I am just speaking with information I have obtained in my 12 yrs. of interest with antique tractors. Hope I Helped.

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Ken Talatzko

04-04-2002 19:46:53




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 Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to Todd, 04-04-2002 08:10:53  
Todd,
Check out the latest copy of "two-Cylinder". The feature tractor is the "50", and the list of optional equipment list the ROM front. Non ROM tractors may be more plentiful in some areas because the dealer didn't order that option on tractors he ordered for stock. Ken



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Todd

04-04-2002 20:54:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to Ken Talatzko, 04-04-2002 19:46:53  
Thanks, I'll look at that. Like I said I just try to answer to the best of my ability, I don't have that deep knowledge with research like some.



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George

04-04-2002 08:42:21




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 Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to Todd, 04-04-2002 08:10:53  
Well, if you bothered to do so, perhaps you could come up with the correct information, instead of guesses. The Roll-O-Matic was introduced in 1947, and was available as a factory installed option for A tractors 584000-up, B tractors 201000-up, and G tractors 26000-up. The two-piece Roll-O-Matic became available in the 1950 model year. Conversion assemblies were also made available to retrofit earlier tractors.

Roll-O-Matic was never standard equipment, and was always optional. The records do not reveal what percentage of the tractors were equipped with this option, but probably exceeded 90% in the later numbered series tractors ordered with tricycle front ends.

Roll-O-Matic continued to be an option on some of the smaller Waterloo-built row-crop tractors until the late 1970's when it was finally canceled due to lack of demand.

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Jerry S

04-04-2002 08:00:47




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
My grandfather had a 3020 narrow front that was not a rolamatic so I don't believe it became the factory standard. Unless you are on some plowed ground the rolamatic really didn't help that much in my opinion. I certainly like changing front tires without the rollamatic better.



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luckydog

04-04-2002 06:48:14




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 Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to burns, 04-04-2002 05:19:15  
Burns-My parts books say-A 477000 up-G 13000 up, Don"t think they ever put one on an H-Not sure about the BN, maybe someone else can help. luckydog



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JD70Jim

04-04-2002 13:24:10




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 Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to luckydog, 04-04-2002 06:48:14  
Uh, the term "BN" means that the tractor is equipped with a single front wheel setup, likewise with "AN" and "GN" tractors. Trying to find a BN with Roll-o-matic is the same as trying to find a wide front end equipped tractor with Roll-o-matic. It is not a factor. You can take off the single front wheel from a BN and convert it over to a regular "B" by installing an R-O-M unit however. Why anyone would is a good question, but it could be done.

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Walt F

04-04-2002 19:55:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to JD70Jim, 04-04-2002 13:24:10  
A good friend of mine was a farmer in the days when cultivating a field of knee high row crops was a necessity, check row planting was common practice. Anyway, he said the rolamatic was the best thing john deere ever came up with, because the tires would follow the groove between the crops. Other tractors would fight the operator constantly, nonstop, because the wheels, one then the other would be constantly climbing the sides

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Denny Frisk

04-05-2002 09:55:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to Walt F, 04-04-2002 19:55:30  
I have to agree with RON....Heavy frt end loads were the biggest problem with the R-O-M.... Place I liked them best was when entering back into the furrow while plowing.... Either when re-rounding the corners when plowing round & round, or when clearing a plug of corn stalks or ??? by pulling out of the furrow and making a loop to the left. The R-O-M on a NFE 4020-D was a 2 finger deal making the loop. Using anything else required one hand tightly grasping the steering wheel. I don't know if R-O-M was standard or not, but around where I grew up, Every NFE numbered Deere I ever saw had one, and quite a few of the Letter series too.

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Ron

04-04-2002 23:30:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Factory options--RolloMatic in reply to Walt F, 04-04-2002 19:55:30  
funny...we used to lock the roll-o-matics so they wouldn't wander around while cultivating. Of course it would depend on how the cultivator was set during the previous cultivation.



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