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Model A pull a square baler

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Josh

04-03-2002 11:03:53




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I was wondering if you guys think a John Deere Model A will pull a square baler or if it is undersized. I was also wondering if you thought a John Deere 224 WS is a good baler and would give me a little info about it.

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Doc

04-04-2002 15:19:24




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 Re: Model A pull a square baler in reply to Josh, 04-03-2002 11:03:53  
I know a 224 is bigger than a 14T, but we used a 50 B for years on the 14T, with no problems. If it's a PTO baler you have to be quick on the PTO lever if you need to stop fast, or the baler will "drive" you forward. If you put your foot on the PTO lever just as you pop the handclutch it's easy to disengage the PTO and stop the rig quickly. I had lots of practice as I was too young to handle the bales, and had to drive...

Doc

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Rodney A. Johnson

04-04-2002 06:49:48




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 Re: Model A pull a square baler in reply to Josh, 04-03-2002 11:03:53  
I don't agree with the comments about the speed. All you have to do is shift down a gear. I find it hard to believe that 1st or 2nd gear would be too fast for a baler. If it is, then the windrow is too big for the baler.

One word of caution. When baling with a tractor that does not have live PTO, you will have trouble with your baler if you need to stop fast. Since every thing stops when you pull the clutch, you can easily plug your baler or shear baler flywheel pins. The best thing to do if you do stop, is to clear the baler before restarting (this can get real tiresome).

As to the power, you should have no problems. My dad had a '52 G and when I complained about using a Ford 4000 diesel ('67), he decided to hook the G up (was a JD 24T baler). It wasn't long and I was happy to use the Ford again (had select-o-speed power-shift...difficult to shift for young little kids like I was...difficult meaning you could skip gears real easily...leading to really jerky shifts...use to PO my dad who was on back of hay rack).

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Tracy in ND

04-03-2002 19:05:18




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 Re: Model A pull a square baler in reply to Josh, 04-03-2002 11:03:53  
Josh: I have a 1935 AR that I use on a JD 14T baler. The tractor is bored out 1/8" with aluminum pistons. Power is not a problem, BUT, you must run full RPM's on the PTO, so, you might be driving too fast with the baler. This was my problem. Either the baler would plug up, or I would sheer pins. I really learned my lesson when I tried to bale Alfalfa. However, if you go in light swaths you should have no problem. I solved this by installing a Wisconsin two cylinder on the baler. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!! When you don't have live PTO, and want to "play" with antique tractors, I think this is the only way to go. Good luck with your baling. Tracy in ND.

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Larry W.

04-04-2002 05:06:32




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 Re: Re: Model A pull a square baler in reply to Tracy in ND, 04-03-2002 19:05:18  
I agree with Tracy. I have done it with a Massey Ferguson PTO baler. It is not a power problem, it is a speed problem. Best to get a pony engine on the baler. I have a v-4 Wisconsin on mine now, which is a little too much, but it only takes me a few minutes to change a shear pin. It is nice to be able to slow down or speed up depending on the size of the windrow.



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Sam

04-03-2002 19:02:39




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 Re: Model A pull a square baler in reply to Josh, 04-03-2002 11:03:53  
Is the baler PTO drive or does it have a motor? An "A" will pull either one, but since it doesn't have live power, you will like the motorized version a lot better. I have seen people try all kinds of tricks with the PTO version, like stopping the ground travel with the pully brake or kicking ole John out of gear.



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Frank-in-Tallahassee

04-03-2002 15:23:15




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 Re: Model A pull a square baler in reply to Josh, 04-03-2002 11:03:53  
Josh:

I don't know which year "A" you're referring to, but we pulled a New Holland square baler with our '48 "A" for many seasons.

The older "A"'s might be a little shy on power, not sure.

Funny baling story:

My grandad had a '40 "H", and they wondered if it would pull the BIG New Holland baler (the baler had an engine on it).

They hooked it up and as they cranked the baler down off of it's hitch jack, the front wheels of the "H" came off the ground !
I asked my dad what they did then, and he said : "We took the drawbar into town to the blacksmith and had him drill another hole so we could slide it in farther" !

Now that's making do with what you had !

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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