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51 g steering adjustment

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abe

03-18-2002 18:30:15




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wheel wobble at higher speeds/checked and packed
bearings/and rechecked/wheels are good/tires are
new 6.50x16 3 rib/read manual on adjustment of
the eccentric.
could someone please explain this!do i go
clockwise/counterclockwise/does the sector gear have to be off
thanks
abe




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abe

03-19-2002 17:09:35




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 Re: 51 g steering adjustment in reply to abe , 03-18-2002 18:30:15  
thanks for all the help/my wheel wobble is gone.
set the back and forth play when pulling steering
wheel towards yourself. shimmed sector shaft gear up a little better than 1/8 inch/snugged nut up/set eccentric and tightened nut down/done the road 6th gear open
throttle no wobble
thanks abe



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Clooney

03-19-2002 11:31:37




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 Re: 51 g steering adjustment in reply to abe , 03-18-2002 18:30:15  
Abe, jack the front end up just enough to take the weight off the front wheels (not all the way off the ground just enough to remove most of the weight), then with the steering wheel straight ahead try turning or shaking the front wheel sideways, the lateral play you see there is what you have when going down the road. Then turn the steering wheel about 1 turn to the left & shake them again, then do the same with one turn to the right of center. If you have very much play while the wheels are either L or R of center you can make it better with an eccentric adjustment, if it is fairly tight at both sides of center but loose in the center you have sector wear & probably won't get it much tighter without binding in the straight ahead position.
~If you want to try to make it tighter�� dig around in the grease just under the sector gear & find the screwdriver slotted set screw & remove it, ( the screw will be vertical & be in one of the slots in the rim of the eccentric) then once the screw is out, take a screwdriver or pointed pry bar & turn the eccentric one way or the other until you feel the steering get tight while turning through the center position with the steering wheel, once you get it to the point it is too tight when turning the steering wheel over center back it up one notch at a time until it feels good going over center, if it is sticky or notchy turning through the center position loosen the eccentric one more notch. ~After the sector gear adjustment is about as good as you can get it, let the front end down to put the weight on the front wheels then have someone turn the steering wheel or turn it yourself with the steering shaft & see if the sector gear & spindle moves from front to rear as you turn the steering wheel, if moves from front to rear while turning there is wear in the eccentric bushing where the shaft goes through, I don�t think that eccentric bushing is available from Deere anymore so if it is worn you will either have to live with the wear or find a good used eccentric. I couldn�t find one for an �A� a while back & had to machine one from brass. This would also be a good time to see if the sector gear is tight on the spindle shaft, it it is loose, all the adjustment in the world won't tighten the steering. ~As you are lifting the front end up on a jack, watch the sector gear to see if it moves down as you jack the front end up, if it does you will probably have to pull the sector gear off & put a shim washer under the gear between the top of the eccentric & bottom of sector gear, or there is the possibility of a worn lower spindle bearing. ~While you have hold of the steering wheel try to push & pull it fore to aft, if there is much movement in that direction you will probably have to pull a shim or two from the bearing cover to lower the worm shaft end play.(you want almost no fore aft movement of the steering shaft) ~After you get it adjusted, drive the tractor with the cover off the steering gear & if it feels tight or notchy on center you will probably have to back the eccentric up one more notch. ~Then fill the gear to just over the top of the sector gear with either corn head grease or a mixture of 140 Weight gear oil & moly grease mixed into a paste that will just pour out of a container.

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John T

03-18-2002 21:17:48




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 Re: 51 g steering adjustment in reply to abe , 03-18-2002 18:30:15  
Abe, start by lessening the steerign shaft horizontal end play by removing some of the gaskets on the bearing end cap of the pedestal. Then, you rotate the eccentric bushing (no need to remove the worm or sector gears) to whichever way brings the sector closer to the worm. However, if you set it to tight in the middle, then it will be wayyyyy to tight out on the ends where it gets less wear. Good Luck Ol John T

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Pappy

03-18-2002 20:42:40




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 Re: 51 g steering adjustment in reply to abe , 03-18-2002 18:30:15  
You can rotate the eccentric bushing either way.



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Frank-in-Tallahassee

03-18-2002 18:45:52




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 Re: 51 g steering adjustment in reply to abe , 03-18-2002 18:30:15  
Abe:

Your problem haunts all of the manual steering JD's at one time or another. I went to the search feature above, and there's probably 30 old messages that deal with shimmy, wobble, hard steering, excessive play, etc.

I'm no epxert, but I've adjusted a few. There's a vertical adjustment of the main pedestal shaft, an end play adjustment using shims in the front cap, and the eccentric that leans the sector gear into the worm.

The problem is that the sector and worm wear most when the wheels are straight, so you need to adjust out the play at either the left or right extreme, or you'll never be able to turn it.

Here's a couple of excerpts from old messages I found. The search feature has been a real help to me !

Frank-in-Tallahassee

...If you will turn your wheels about 30 percent to the right, the sector gear will allow you to reach the lock screw better. Also, do not adjust the eccentric bushing to bring the gears tighter if your wheels are pointed straight ahead. There is some wear in the gears, mostly in the straight ahead position, and if you make the adjustment straight ahead, the steering may bind up when you turn the wheel right or left....

...to turn that eccentric bushing, the set screw in the bottom must be completely removed of course, then I use a pry bar to rotate the eccentric bushing until the half moon sector gear is closer to the worm. I jack up the front of the tractor frame which takes part of the load off that steering shaft so the eccentric bushing will turn. You can also adjust your steering shaft end play by removing the end cap and removing some of the shim/gaskets....

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