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JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack?

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Dan

03-13-2002 20:41:45




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Is there an easy way or a home method to check it out and see if its cracked. Thankyou for any opinions.




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Clooney

03-14-2002 03:08:07




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 Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Dan, 03-13-2002 20:41:45  
Dan, about all you can do is clean it real good & visually inspect it for cracks, then use a straight edge to check for warping.
~Look between the valve seats & around the exhaust seat area as that seems to be a common place for cracks to start



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Dan

03-14-2002 06:10:27




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 Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Clooney, 03-14-2002 03:08:07  
Thankyou Sir, I value your opinion and will take a real hard look at the head.Thanks again.



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Frank-in-Tallahassee

03-14-2002 13:23:30




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Dan, 03-14-2002 06:10:27  
Guys:

This might seem far out, but during my electrolysis cleaning, I have noticed that the process does expose cracks that were mostly invisible prior to cleaning. It seems that the as the process converts the red rust to black oxide, the crack is the last to clean, so it tends to stand out.

Also, from my old FPI (fluorescent penetrant inspection) testing days, the solvent evaporates last out of the crack, because the air can't get to it. If you moisten the surface, even with water, and watch it as it evaporates, you might just see a crack. Some perchlorethylene (non-flammable brake cleaning solvent A.K.A. old-timey dry-cleaning fluid) will penetrate, and will evaporate more slowly from the crack than from the surface.

I've used all kinds of solvents, from gasoline to ther, to lacquer thinner to expose cracks, and have been sadly, pretty successful. I say sadly because finding the crack means a lot more expense.

You can also try spritzing the suspected area with diesel fuel, then spray a light misting of lighter solvent on the surface. The heavier diesel fuel will again tend to stay in the crack, and under light as the solvent evaporates, be pretty visible. I've even used refridgereant...(when it was a tad more legal.

It's all pretty cheap and easy to try ! And I like cheap and easy !

Frankin-Tallahassee
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Dan

03-14-2002 20:03:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Frank-in-Tallahassee, 03-14-2002 13:23:30  
F i T, Thanks for your suggestions, I will play around with it that way and see what I can find, I have no real use for the head instead I only want to know if its good or if its a boat anchor. Thankyou.



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abe

03-14-2002 19:47:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Frank-in-Tallahassee, 03-14-2002 13:23:30  
remove upper water manifold and the intake/exhaust
manifold make sure coolant level is high as possilble/close the valves/buy a pen light from
seats $14.00/leave sit a few days/look down intake and exhaust ports with pen light/if water down those holes you head is cracked.
trust me 3 machine shops lots of $$$$$$$$$$$
and they are telling me block and the exhaust dome was cracked.
if and when bring in for head work have them put
in writing they are going to pressure test and
garuntee
abe

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Dan

03-14-2002 20:10:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to abe, 03-14-2002 19:47:22  
Thanks abe,the head came off a wrecked 'D'. The cylinders were have full of rust. the right one more so. The head is lying on the floor of the shed so I have to check it by considering other suggestions.I have no plans for it, just want to know if its a good head or not.Thankyou for your thoughts.



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Ron

03-14-2002 22:19:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Dan, 03-14-2002 20:10:45  
With the head clean, rub a red magic marker on the suspected area. wipe clean with thinner...the crack will hold some red, and it will "Bleed", or show up the crack. You can get a " dye penetrant " kit, and it works the same way....



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Dan

03-15-2002 05:43:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Ron, 03-14-2002 22:19:26  
Thanks Ron, That sounds like it will work. No sense in discarding a good head.



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F-I-T

03-15-2002 07:12:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 'D' styled head. How to check for crack? in reply to Dan, 03-15-2002 05:43:55  
Hey now !

Ron has a good idea. a product called Spot-Chek uses red dye to penetrate the crack, then it is drawn up and out using a sprayed on white powder. I think you could approximate that same conditions by using magic marker, and then dust some corn satarch on it, or spray it with some powdery white stuff, like maybe spray on deordorant !

It would have to be white to help see it, but I bet that would work !

F-I-T

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