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farmuse

03-11-2002 13:55:18




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I'm looking at a 630 LP row crop and am told that the tank is full of rust. I can hook a gas lp bottle to it and it runs fine but when the regular tank is hooked up it will run a little bit and quit. The little filter under the tank gets clogged with rust. Any ideas how much to have the tank cleaned or replace with another. How much trouble to convert to gas?




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A Man

03-11-2002 21:07:22




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 Re: 630 LP Row Crop in reply to farmuse, 03-11-2002 13:55:18  
I have had the same problems as you and ihave taken tank of and drain and put pea gravel and set for hour shaking with the pea gravel in it which will break out the rust and clean the tank or take it to a radatior shop have the boil it out



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Tom in Mo.

03-11-2002 17:04:45




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 Re: 630 LP Row Crop in reply to farmuse, 03-11-2002 13:55:18  
You didn't mention the condition of the outside of the tank. If the outside is fairly clean then pull the valves and guage and flush it out. Muriatic acid flush and a good quality tank coating from NAPA should fix it right up. Note that all brass fittings and filler valves should all be removed; bare steel tank ONLY. If the exterior and the interior are both bad then try and replace it. I can't hardly imagine enough rust scale accumulating to be sucked through the liquid intake tube without damage to the inside of the tank; in regards to wall thickness.
Please post a follow up as there are many of us LPG tractor nuts out here.

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Frank-in-Tallahassee

03-11-2002 18:39:08




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 Re: Re: 630 LP Row Crop in reply to Tom in Mo., 03-11-2002 17:04:45  
I'm not sure about the access one can obtain by removing the valves and such, but if it's considerable, you could probably get a rod shaped cathode in the tank and try electrolysis.

I would caution against Muriatic acid, which is a blend of Sulfuric and Hydrochloric. There's likely to be some Ferric Chloride salts left behind and they might continue to react with any moisture that would ever find it's way into the tank. Also, Muriatic will eat away at the good steel, and possibly cause a hole at one of the thinner spots.

If you need to acid treat, consider Phosphoric Acid, which is the non-electrochemical equivalent of electrolysis. It will convert any red rust into black oxide, which will remain stable. It also tends to have very minimal reactance with steel. Since the tank would then be either fresh clean steel or black oxide, you may not have to use a sloshing sealer though I don't if those compounds exist for a propane environment.

In a pinch, I guess you could slosh it with a two-part epoxy liquid, which should be durable against the propane.

Just some considerations.

Frank-in-Tallahassee
70D // 855

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G Taylor

03-11-2002 14:50:49




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 Re: 630 LP Row Crop in reply to farmuse, 03-11-2002 13:55:18  
Gasp..... ..don't butcher it into gasoline like so many other LP's have been. Collectors will line up to bid on a LP around here. Get the tank pressure tested, sounds like it sat wide open to atmospere & condensation has rusted the insides. Flushing/cleaning then electrolysis cleaning with Frank's recipe should work if it's just surface rust.



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farmuse

03-11-2002 19:38:45




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 Re: Re: 630 LP Row Crop in reply to G Taylor , 03-11-2002 14:50:49  
What would a decent rowcrop 630lp bring on the open market inreasonably good original condition.



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G Taylor

03-12-2002 07:22:13




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 Re: Re: Re: 630 LP Row Crop in reply to farmuse, 03-11-2002 19:38:45  
Depends on the auction of course, but 40 to 50% over gas price is common for collectors who want an unusual tractor in the collection. I had to purchase truck this year to keep the motherinlaw happy, so no tractor or serious projects here for a couple of years. Wouldn't mind a LP 420 or 520.



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Rev JJ

03-11-2002 14:05:11




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 Re: 630 LP Row Crop in reply to farmuse, 03-11-2002 13:55:18  
Just flush your tank with somekind of good solvent and then hit it with a sealer. I wouldn't swap it to gasoline. I understand that JD only made around 1600 630lp rowcrops. I still have my Grandfathers. They are also bad to have a howl in the rear end, mine does and has had it all of my life.



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