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Power Shift vrs Quad Range

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Rob

03-09-2002 17:39:07




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Would some of you fellows be so kind as to educate me on John Deere transmissions. Pros & Cons, how to identify one from the other etc. If it helps I'm looking to buy a tractor between 110 & 150 HP. Any an all replys appreciated.




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JDJIM

03-10-2002 21:02:50




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 Re: Power Shift vrs Quad Range in reply to Rob, 03-09-2002 17:39:07  
I have had no experience with the 15sp Powershift but have had several 8speeds over the years and still have four , 3020 , 4020 , 4430 & 4840 . Also had a 4640 Quadrange . The 8sp PS at times could use a speed between 6&7th , are jerky at times , doesn't bother me but some complain about it . Like G-MAN said good maintenance is the key to good performance . Clean oil , proper pressure is very important on Powershift , I keep it at the hi side of the range and on my 4020 & 4430 I run it higher some because I turn them up and do some tractor pulling . I slip the torsion-dampner once in a while on the 44 , I'm running it at 275- 300hp sometimes when pulling , it has 5900hrs and hasn't been touched anywhere . What I don't like about the Quad is when you are in B or C range and want to backup reverse is too fast with a load behind and you have to go back to A and then back to C to continue forward . It was inconvienent on the grain cart for one . With Powershift just bring it around to R , much easier . On the 4640 for example we used B2 and C2 for most field work , they are almost the same as 4th and 5th in the powershift . On the 4640 about the only time we used A was in reverse , the forward gears were too slow . I know there are more Quads out there than 8sp Ps but that's my opinion and experience , hope it helps . Both are good transmissions , I just think the PS is more convient , easier to run etc. JIM

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G-MAN

03-09-2002 18:27:29




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 Re: Power Shift vrs Quad Range in reply to Rob, 03-09-2002 17:39:07  
Rob, either transmission is a good option. It really depends on what you want to use the tractor for. First of all a quad range has two shifter levers. One for range and one for speeds. This trans is also powershiftable between 1-2 and 3-4. It has ranges A-D. If I were using the tractor on a loader, I would go with the quad range as it will give you inline shifts between fwd and rev. Reverse 1-2 are also powershifts. When properly maintained, the perma-clutch that is used with a QR is nearly indestructible, it's oil cooled and hydraulically actuated. The powershift is also a good trans. It will only have 8 spds forward and 4 reverse on one lever. Instead of a clutch, it uses a torsional damper on the flywheel. The actual trans engagement is accomplished in the C1/C2/PTO clutch pack in the front of the trans. Once again, with proper maintenance, a PS will last a long time. I guess I should cover the 15 spd PS too. It is similar in construction to the 8 spd, but has a hydraulically actuated two speed built in, but still only one lever. It also has 4 reverse speeds. The clutch pack in a 15 spd is located on the engine flywheel. When you're looking at tractors, check the trans/hyd oil. If it is black at all, it will indicate a leaking rear main crank seal in a 15 spd PS or QR tractor. Also check to see if the hyd oil smells burnt. You might have them pull the filters and sump screen so you can inspect them also. The most common problem we see at our dealership is wear in the drive shaft bushings in 15 spds. This will cause a vibration you can feel in the floor at about 1500 rpm on up. Also, look for firm, positive shifts without being exceptionally jerky. Also, have the dealership check trans operating pressure and lube pressure on PS trannies. Check in all gears. Check clutch pressure in QR tractors. Also put the tractor (PS) in nuetral and open up the throttle. Look for creeping, this can indicate clutch pack problems. It is common for 15 spd tractors to rock against the park pawl though, especially with cold oil. Hope I was of some help with this book I wrote, feel free to e-mail me with any other questions.
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