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Jodi

02-20-2002 15:17:33

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I told my friends about how my Uncle used to crank his old John Deer with the steering wheel, they think I'm crazy. Any comments?

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ChuckW

02-21-2002 20:36:59

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Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Jodi, 02-20-2002 15:17:33

I've used this device but definitely would recommend parking on a hill. In those days very litte was used for safety...also a no no is cranking a starter model with the flywheel off

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02-22-2002 14:12:03

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Re: Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to ChuckW, 02-21-2002 20:36:59

Do you mean with the flywheel COVER off?

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RayP(MI)

02-21-2002 18:33:33

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Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Jodi, 02-20-2002 15:17:33

We recently acquired a '49 B - the fore runner of the 50, and it came with the stub that you put in the wheel to crank it. My uncle used to own a 50, and had a spare wheel with the stub permantly mounted on it just for starting emergencies! Yes, they sure did start them that way! Be sure to open the petcocks before you try however.

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Friends still wet behind the ears

02-21-2002 18:14:23

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Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Jodi, 02-20-2002 15:17:33

I still do it some times on my 50 just to do it, I try it on my 60 but I am alittle short of power,

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Deere Puller

02-21-2002 08:56:21

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Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Jodi, 02-20-2002 15:17:33

They are especially fun to use! When the tractor starts, nearly half of the time stub shaft/steering wheel stays with the flywheel, only to come zinging off, usually ricocheting off something valuable, such as a vehicle or window! The key is to have good hold of the wheel when it starts, so that you can pull it away safely. Beware the dreaded backstroke, it'll bust your wrists in a hurry - One of my old neighbors had a tractor that pulled this stunt and, according to him, that's why he never owned another Deere! (I've also seen his next choice of color, the Oliver, break wrists/arms as well, when the crank remains engaged and comes around catching someone too! - Not a pleasant sight)

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Ron

02-21-2002 07:31:22

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Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Jodi, 02-20-2002 15:17:33

Jodi,

You are absolutely right as the others here have said. The operator's manual for these tractors show pictures of the wheel and how it was used. If you can find someone with an old operator's manual you can show them picture proof!

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Sam

02-20-2002 20:21:22

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Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Jodi, 02-20-2002 15:17:33

Tell you friend that modern batteries, alternators, and electronic ignition have not always been around. When the '47 A's and B's came out with bottom starters and covered flywheels, lots of people used the steering wheel for cranking ole John. This was usually an extra wheel that hung nicely from the lift lever. The crankshaft had a cross pin in the flywheel end and the extra steering wheel had a stub end to match. You took the center out of the flywheel cover and inserted the stub, opened the petcocks, and turned the wheel.

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Jodi

02-22-2002 06:49:02

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Re: Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Sam, 02-20-2002 20:21:22

Thanks for all your comments, my husband and I both enjoyed them. Jodi

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Frank-in-Tallahassee

02-20-2002 16:29:20

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Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Jodi, 02-20-2002 15:17:33

Jodi:

Here's a post I made a while back when the same question came up:

Handsome Jim:

You're not on dope. That thing, (we called a stub shaft), had an end that forked like the nose of a crank (so it would ratchet) and the other end had a key that would fit in the steering wheel.

A lot of dealers and folks who had to hand start often would keep an extra steering wheel around with the stub mounted in it.

Now if you wanted a real treat, if you had a mounted picker on the tractor, you had a shaft about 4-5' long, and you put it through a hole in the side of the picker to turn the flywheel.

I'd have let it run during lunch !

Frank

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Dan

02-20-2002 19:03:17

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Re: Re: Model 50 John Deer in reply to Frank-in-Tallahassee, 02-20-2002 16:29:20

saw an A with that type starter once. Know they were available.

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