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alcgar

02-17-2002 09:12:11




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:et me preface this post by saying I have never turned over a piece of sod in my life but I want to learn how. I have a 45 two bottom plow. How do I determine what size it is? The bottom of the shares measure 15 1/2 inches which would lead me to believe it is a 16 inch bottom. However the distance between the coulters when everything is lined up and parallel measures 14 inches. Questions: what size is this plow, what tread width should I set my 520 at to pull it, how do you determine what size a plow is, will my 40U pull this plow and if so what should I set the rear wheel of the 40 at? Thanks in advance Al

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gary

02-17-2002 18:58:26




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 Re: 45 plow in reply to alcgar, 02-17-2002 09:12:11  
Al,
You are in for a lot of fun, but you should definetly invest $20 in a manual for your plow. It will be money well spent. Setting those plows up isn't brain surgery, but there are some fairly intricate steps which I think Frank touched on. If you have a three bottom plow, I don't think your 40 has a chance, it may even tax your 520 pretty hard. I am only slightly ahead of you, a plowed a few furrows with a #55 trip plow and my "B". Can't wait till spring...have a ball!
Gary

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Mike Aylward

02-17-2002 17:32:31




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 Re: 45 plow in reply to alcgar, 02-17-2002 09:12:11  
Al, is this a later model 45 plow that is a 3-point model? If so, get to a John Deere dealer or order a manual direct for your plow. It should be a good match for your 520 and would be a little "optimistic" for a 40, assuming it is a 16" plow. The easiest way to measure the frame size on plows of this type is to measure the distance between frame bars. This will give you the bottom size. Also, if your plow has the bottom style still stencilled on the back that can tell you what size and type of bottom you have (there are many). Hope this helps. Mike

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Ron

02-18-2002 06:44:25




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 Re: Re: 45 plow in reply to Mike Aylward, 02-17-2002 17:32:31  
I need a gage wheel, w/mount for an "F-45" mounted plow...

Where can I find one??

Thanks.!!

Ron.



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Frank

02-17-2002 14:19:17




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 Re: 45 plow in reply to alcgar, 02-17-2002 09:12:11  
alcgar:

These guys are tight on how to determine the cut.

All John Deere operator's manuals of that day had a section on "Plow Hitching", and cover from 2 bottms up to probably five. I know the plow does not pull, or draft right up the middle, but needs to be offset. To determine this compensated "Centerline of Draft" , find the point 1/4 bottom to the left of plow centerline. On a 2-14 plow that would be 14+ (1/4*14) = 17.5". So your drawbar hole should be 17.5" from the inside of your right, or furrow tire. If you can't adjust your wheels that much, you can set the drawbar to the left a few inches to create the 17.5".

You also don't want to pull down or up on the hitch as you plow. This same draft point is at 3" when you are plowing 6" deep, so the line from that draft point to the tractor hitch should be straight line. You adjust that with the clevis rack on the front of the plow.

Get yourself a JD ops manual, or borrow one from a "B" on up. You'll be surprised at the amount of information.


Hope this helps !

Frank

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Bob Collins

02-17-2002 13:34:09




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 Re: 45 plow in reply to alcgar, 02-17-2002 09:12:11  
Will is correct, the # 45 plow was made starting 1919 and in a couple versions up to 1937 for the 45A and '34 for the 45C. It is not a common plow and the 44 is common but we are of course just guessing with out much description. I think either your 520 or 40 would handle 2 14s ok. Can't beat a manual for set up of the hitch. If you have never plowed before, welcome to a lot of fun! Bob



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Will P

02-17-2002 11:41:29




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 Re: 45 plow in reply to alcgar, 02-17-2002 09:12:11  
There is a 45 plow made by Deere, but I don't have a date of manufactor. You probably have a 44 plow, or another 2 bottom plow that Deere made. The beam numbers for the 45 plow are, 520 and 521. The 44 plow is 28161, and 28162.

Now the bottoms. Draw a staight line parallel with the plow travel against the landslide and the point of the share. Measure the distance between the two. That is the cut. You probably have a 2-14" plow.

Can't help you set up the plow. There are some good books out there. Find an opperation and care of farm machinery that Deere put out years ago. This has how to set up a plow. But the best thing to do is go out and play.

My 2 cents.

Will P

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