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Cold Weather Starting Aide 1020

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Matthew

02-04-2002 16:53:30




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My 1970 JD 1020 diesel has a small spout into which you can push a can of starter fluid. They call this a "cold weather starting aide". I have a few questions about this:

1. Is this OK to use only in cold weather? Maybe older JD diesels are fine with the use of starter fluid - I don't know and I don't want to damage the engine.

2. Are there any different starting fluids that are safer than others? I've read somewhere that you should try to find a fluid with lower levels of ether. I've also heard that WD40 works, but is it dangerous?

3. What are other ways that I can use to start this cold diesel in winter? I just had the engine completely rebuilt last summer. I know it should start pretty easily, but it does not have glow plugs. I had the fuel injector pump completely rebuilt, installed new injectors, the batteries are completely charged, and I even tried a antifreeze heater (which doesn't seem to work well). Maybe an oil pan heater would work better.

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Brian Taylor

02-05-2002 08:21:05




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 Re: Cold Weather Starting Aide 1020 in reply to Matthew, 02-04-2002 16:53:30  
If an engine will start after cranking a few seconds without a starting aid that's fine, if not use starting fluid that contains a lubricant and follow the instructions on the can. It WILL NOT harm the engine in any way provided you USE IT PROPERLY. Should you get carried away and cause the engine to ether lock, stop trying to start it let the engine sit for a while until the starting fluid evaporates out of the cylinders, if you don't you will do serious unrepairable damage to the engine. I work for a large freight carrier that has thousands of Series 60 Detroit Diesels that are cold started on starting fluid that is automatically metered into the engine, they knock and hammer and sound like they are going to come apart but they fire right up, this saves on starter motors. The starting fluid obviously does no damage to these engines as they give over 1.1 million miles of nearly maintenance free service before they are pulled out for rebuild. The secret is to not over use the starting fluid, give it a 2-3 second burst crank it then when it fires give short bursts just to keep it running continue to do this until it starts to burn the fuel. NEVER USE STARTING FLUID ON AN ENGINE WITH A PREHEATER (glowplugs) if you do you will be in for the suprise of you life when the starting fluid ignites in the intake manifold (it'll blow your hat off...guaranteed.)

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G Taylor

02-05-2002 07:48:39




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 Re: Cold Weather Starting Aide 1020 in reply to Matthew, 02-04-2002 16:53:30  
What type of coolant heater? On occassion a lower rad hose heater warms the radiator more than the engine. An external tank unit can have circulation problems depending on it's installation. A block heater in the frost plug is about as direct & simple as any. A heated oil pan is always a good addition to coolant heat. Why start an engine with the oil remaining a thick mass in the oilpan instead of being pumped through the engine? A pair of warming trays under/blankets around the batteries are as important as a warm engine to maintain full cranking power. Ether is only for last ditch emergencies if someone is going to die if the engine doesn't start.

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John Henry

02-05-2002 05:10:53




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 Re: Cold Weather Starting Aide 1020 in reply to Matthew, 02-04-2002 16:53:30  
That coolant block heater should do the job. I have never been crazy about using ether. Whether You use "Deeres cold weather starting aid" or spray it into the air filter. Would like to hear the others comments on the subject.



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