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How do i go about cleaning out the gas tank on my 720??

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Tyler B

01-27-2002 20:55:43




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I just acquired a 720 Standard Gas over the weekend and there is absolutely only one thing wrong with it....the gas tank has rust in it. I could also be some varnish being that it had gas sitting in the tank for about four years. The carb has been completely rebuilt by a former deere mechanic so it is done right. He told me that he would have cleaned the tank, except for the time constraint for the auction. But, i just need to know how and what to do and where i can get the stuff that i will need. Thanks

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Deere

01-28-2002 12:39:13




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 Re: How do i go about cleaning out the gas tank on my 720?? in reply to Tyler B, 01-27-2002 20:55:43  
Many radiator shops are more than willing to tackle the task, for an un-belivably reasonable price. After fooling around with these things for years, I took one in & was shocked that the bill was only $40. - A good investment, especially if you have other work to do - The etch & sealer can easily cost that much alone.



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Frank

01-28-2002 18:33:19




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 Re: Re: How do i go about cleaning out the gas tank on my 720?? in reply to Deere, 01-28-2002 12:39:13  
I had a radiator shop clean out the fuel tank and the radiator on the H I'm restoring. He only charged me $40.00 to do both



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Frank

01-28-2002 09:53:09




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 Re: How do i go about cleaning out the gas tank on my 720?? in reply to Tyler B, 01-27-2002 20:55:43  
Tyler B:

Couple of things you don't want to do:

1)Disolve any plating (like zinc) from the inside of the tank

2)Make a near rust through hole a real hole.

3) Use acid so strong that you generate a significant volume of hydrogen gas...

That's why I am not a fan of muriatic acid (a comon blend of Hydrchloric and Sulfuric acids) except to clean masonry.

Lately I have been doing the following:

If I think it's just old organic sludge in the tank, like boiled off gasoline, then try acetone first, then try MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone). MEK will do the job, but be sure to use it in a well ventilated area, eye protection, ....yadda, yadda....you know the drill.

If you then see any visible rust in the tank, go to the discount auto parts store, and buy some metal treating stuff. It's kind of greenish, and it is now sold by them to treat (convert) free rust into the black iron phosphate. Now this stuff is dilute phosphoric acid, but remember, not all acids are alike. This stuff will eat metal, but at it's low strength, about all you will get is a good etch. It WILL turn the old rust black, and that rust patch will then be chemically inert. The tank must be oil free so the acid can get to the metal, so I like to wash the inside of the tank with hot soapy water, or purple cleaner to remove the oily residue from the MEK and slop. Then, if the tank is reallly rusty, throw a short length of chain in there as you slosh the phosphoric acid around. Be sure to wear protective clothing and eye protection, etc. (It will bite you nose !).

Now, rinse the tank with hot water, or even better, blast it with a power washer. Though they say it will dry to a sandable, primable finish, I like to remove it. If you do this, it will shine, and you won't have to worry that you removed too much base metal.

After you wash it, slosh some clean MEK in it, and most of the water will pool out the drain. If you are not going to install it for sometime, slosh some diesel fuel it in to oil the fresh metal surfaces because the MEK will have stripped all oil from the metal pores.

BTW: I treat my freshly sandblasted parts with this "Phosphatizing" acid, then power wash, dry, and prime. The acid kills any rust I missed, and disolves any remnants of silica from the sand exploding against the metal.

Frank

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Jerry S

01-28-2002 09:10:48




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 Re: How do i go about cleaning out the gas tank on my 720?? in reply to Tyler B, 01-27-2002 20:55:43  
I asked a radiator and gas tank shop about it and he told me to take the tank off and go to the car wash and clean it as good as I could with the high pressure wash. If there was any flaking rust, I could put a few driveway rocks in it and shake it around til I got the rust loose and rewash the tank. Make sure you don't beat holes in the tank with the rocks. I got a gas tank sealer from an antique car restoration supply place and it works excellent. Don't remember what it's name is but If you have a shop around, they likely will either sell you some or coat your tank for you whichever works out better.

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