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Ray

01-24-2002 10:08:39

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I changed the transmission oil a few months ago but when I check it now the oil has many air bubbles, close to a foam type consistency and the case is over full now. When I changed the oil I pulled both drain plugs and flushed it out with kerosene, replaced the oil with 80/90 gl-5 gear oil and added 1 1/2 qts to the first reduction gear housing. It was about 40 degrees when I was using the tractor. Is this type of oil not acceptable, if engine oil is getting into the oil will it cause it to foam or will colder weather cause it to foam?
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DON

01-25-2002 07:30:07

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Re: JD 60 Transmission oil level in reply to Ray, 01-24-2002 10:08:39

If you have been useing it in cold weather this would be normal if it isnt being used long enough And under load to warm up the oil. The bull gears when turning will pull air under and it will have to set quite awhile for the air to work out in thick oil. Don

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Frank

01-24-2002 12:57:06

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Re: JD 60 Transmission oil level in reply to Ray, 01-24-2002 10:08:39

Ray:

Are you losing oil out of the Pow-R-Trol ? Maybe you have a leaking rockshaft cylinder gasket. That's one way to get it overfilled. Have you been using the Pow-R-Trol alot recently ?

Not sure where the foaming could come from. It's possible to suck transmission oil into the power take-off clutch area when the oil seals of the internal clutch lube pump are bad. But that generally only overfills the clutch pack area.

Are you noticing any other fluids going down ? Motor oil ? Not sure how that could get in there, but maybe from a bad first reduction cover oil seal.

That weight gear lube should be fine.

Post back with some more details. Does your tractor have live or transmission driven PTO ?

Frank

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Ray

01-24-2002 14:05:09

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Re: Re: JD 60 Transmission oil level in reply to Frank, 01-24-2002 12:57:06

It has live PTO with no problems in the level of the oil in the PTO clutch. I am losing some oil in the Pow-R-Trol but I always figured I was losing it because I do change from the hydraulics to the rockshafts and I lose a little each time I change the plugs. Ray

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Frank

01-24-2002 14:48:09

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Re: Re: Re: JD 60 Transmission oil level in reply to Ray, 01-24-2002 14:05:09

Ray:

I'll bet that's your problem. I'm thinking that you have a blown gasket between the cylinder and the rear end housing.

Does the rockshaft stay up with a load on it ? If it doesn't, there is a test. I think the test for that is to lift a load, and turn the metering screw in till it seats. If the load stays up you have an internal power-r-trol leak, but if it falls with the screw seated, then it's the cylinder that is leaking. The cylinder can either leak down by oil slipping past the o-ring on the piston, or in your case, out the leaky gasket. It's a pretty common problem.

That's my bet.

Good luck !

Frank

I still can't figure out the foaming.

Frank

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john

01-24-2002 16:31:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: JD 60 Transmission oil level in reply to Frank, 01-24-2002 14:48:09

I think you have condensation. I would let the tractor set a week or longer and then open the drain plug and drain the water off. you'll be surprised at how much water can collect inside. It's worth a try.

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