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Strange Wheels on A

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adude

01-16-2002 11:48:25




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We have been tearing apart my 1941 "A" for restoration. SN 505801. We noticed that the center of the rear wheel hub is different on both sides of the tractor. The left side has the splined section cast as part of the rim. The clamp had a part number of A2344 (maybe) It had 3 large bolts with 3 pulling holes. That all seemed normal. The right side wheel was different. The splined center section was bolted to the cast center with 6 bolts. The clamp used 3 bolts smaller than the left side. Also, it had only 2 pulling holes. The part number was B1961. Across from the part number, the letters XP were cast into the body. Could this be some sort of strange experiment part? Should I use this wheel or try to find a different unit? Both are in good shape.

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Mike in Mo

01-16-2002 16:35:43




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 Re: Strange Wheels on A in reply to adude, 01-16-2002 11:48:25  
The one piece cast wheel/hub (on the left side) would have been origional on your tractor. The 2 piece wheel/hub started at S/N 555854 according to the information I have. Chances are one of the origional wheels cracked and was simply replaced with what was available. Mike



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Will P

01-16-2002 20:43:45




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 Re: Re: Strange Wheels on A in reply to Mike in Mo, 01-16-2002 16:35:43  
You are probably correct.

Will P



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buckeye al

01-16-2002 15:00:39




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 Re: Strange Wheels on A in reply to adude, 01-16-2002 11:48:25  
I believe to save steel during the war many wheels were made as a single casting (from the splines out, disk and all) as one piece. Four bolts were used to bolt the clamp ring down because they were threading into cast iron instead of the tougher cast steel center you have on the other side. During this same general time the steel frames were dropped and iron castings were used instead.

You may have been there but if not, did you ever stop to wonder what turmoil the war had to have placed on manufacturing in general? I seem to recall that Deere was in the munitions business during the war. Machining gun barrels sticks in my mind for some reason. How much of the change from fabricated steel frames was driven by things of this nature? Maybe if the foundry could make the frames as a casting then the machine shops or press rooms were more able to work on other war related items. I don't know, I wasn't there but I sure marvel at & respect the efforts they spent to make it happen. They did it for the cause and they did it without even a calculator let alone the computer aided and fully automated systems we have today!

I know, I know, Get off the soap box. Sorry. Lets get back to tractors.

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Will P

01-16-2002 20:43:39




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 Re: Re: Strange Wheels on A in reply to buckeye al, 01-16-2002 15:00:39  
Sorry, but the cast frame A didn't come out until 1943. At serial number 522600. His is 505801. 17000 to soon.

Will P



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