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Little PAUL

01-11-2002 12:12:47




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I have been reading this board and looking at comments and pictures and I don�t want to start anything, I just need help finding the right tractor. Right now I have a Allis B with a five foot finish mower but the tractor is giving me a lot of trouble because it is worn out and where I am parts are not easy to come by for it. I don�t like to buy on the net so I am kind of stuck. I do have John Deere dealers around me and they are more numerous than other brands. That is why I am looking at a JD. The problem is they want me to buy new stuff and it is too expensive for me. I need something small like the AC, B because of the work I am doing with it and it has to be able to run a finish mower, 5 foot at most. (One mounted on three point hitch would be great.) A blade of some kind to push snow would be nice too, front or back doesn�t matter and I am more comfortable with a wide front end. What is the JD M like or would there be something better. Please I don�t want to start a brand war I just need to get some work done. I know you are all loyal to the Deere and I don't have a problem with that in fact that is why I am asking you. The dealers in my area tell me they can get parts for some of the older JD�s pretty easy, are they pulling my leg to get me to buy brand or are they telling the truth? (No insult intended to anyone I just want to be sure I am being told the truth and you guys seem to know what you are talking about.)

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mrm

01-13-2002 13:51:33




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 Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Little PAUL, 01-11-2002 12:12:47  
8n's are easy to find parts for but do you have a
Ford dealer in your neiborhood? I can't resist an easy opening---Maybe his is still going strong because 8n's never had good enough brakes to stop.



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Little Paul

01-14-2002 09:25:46




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 Re: Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to mrm, 01-13-2002 13:51:33  
Funny you should say that about the breaks. I just talked to a guy about a JD "M" and he said the same thing. He didn't recomend it for what I was doing and he said besides the breaks always seemed to be right next to don't have any especially when going down hill with a rotery mower. How much push would I get out of a 8 or even 9 N when going down a hill with the mower running as apposed to some of the JD's the other guys are talking about?

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8n Man

01-12-2002 18:33:49




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 Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Little PAUL, 01-11-2002 12:12:47  
Hey. you need an good ole 8n. they are great.parts are easy to find, and will outlast a jd any time.mine is overfifty yrs old and going strong.also greatfor the work you are talking about.



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mrm

01-11-2002 19:52:48




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 Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Little PAUL, 01-11-2002 12:12:47  
I was just at my John Deere dealer today picked up a flyer and JD is pushing all kinds of parts
for other brands maybe they can help you get parts for you allis? My dealer also sells tisco
parts they handle lots of aftermarket parts for all makes. Ask yours if they are hooked up with any aftermarket parts places.Parts are available
for the Deeres.I used an M with a home made 3pt.
quick hitch and a 60inch 3pt finish mower with
great results cuts better than a new MTD.If you buy a JD M ,40 420 430 1020 or best yet a JD compact made by Yanmar you can keep it lots of years and still sell it for what you paid for it . Two- cylinders are getting up in price close to
some of the compacts.My dad has a 750 4wd It'll
run circles around the old tractors on less fuel
the 4 wheel drive makes a tractor out of it.I would not by a two wheel drive model.

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Little Paul

01-14-2002 09:40:10




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 Re: Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to mrm, 01-11-2002 19:52:48  
I just thought, maby I should head over to the Allis page and see if anyone wants my Allis to fix up. I really don't want a keeper I just want a worker.



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Little Paul

01-14-2002 09:33:52




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 Re: Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to mrm, 01-11-2002 19:52:48  
My Allis is pretty bad. You can start with front wheel bearngs and work your way back to the transmission and find something every inch along the way that needs replaced. It wasn't in good shape when I got it and I used it pretty hard. Another problem is that about everything is home made and I don't have time to engineer new parts everytime something breaks. I have come to the oppinion that it costs more to do that than it does to buy a new factory made part.

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Ron

01-11-2002 16:43:25




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 Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Little PAUL, 01-11-2002 12:12:47  
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I have a JD 1010 that has been easy to get parts for, and plow snow with a back blade. There is one on eBay, but they want over 7.000 for it, to high I think. Should find one for 3 or 4 grand.

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Little Paul

01-14-2002 09:54:52




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 Re: Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Ron, 01-11-2002 16:43:25  
This 1010 looks like about what I want and 3-4 grand isn't tooooo bad. I am saying that without my wife around. Do you know how much it pushes going down hill with the mower in gear? (More or less than the 8N the other guy was talking about.)I mow for a chruch camp, pretty much for free. I have to go around trees and between buildings and there are a few downhill sections, not real bad, I suppose if that old AC could do it a 1010 would do it even better. Saw an add for one for $3650 I am going to check out latter today. If you see this do you know of any thing I should look at. Week spots that break easy or things that would show abuse. The guy told me on phone it is in good shape and has a small highlift bucket on the front which would be nice. Said the tractor was never used much, mowed about 4 acres and used it around a small sawmill to load sawdust and wood chips. He had a small dozer for the heavier work.

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Deere2931

01-11-2002 14:27:06




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 Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Little PAUL, 01-11-2002 12:12:47  
Paul in addition to Wayne and Mark, another one is a IH 300 or 350 Utility, about 37 HP, most have power steering, 1 or 2 hyd outlets (can add the third) and a 2 point quick hitch or can be used as a 3 point to. I have a 350 and it does all the dirty work while the green ones stay inside and laugh at it getting dirty. They are hard to come by as no one wants to turn loose of there's. Just another thought.
Best of luck to you.
Bob

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Wayne in Tn.

01-11-2002 13:39:24




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 Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Little PAUL, 01-11-2002 12:12:47  
If you are wanting GREEN, I would recomend something like a 40 - 420 - 430 two cylinder. The M does not have a modern 3-point, has to be home made, and they are eaisly turned over. I have seen a bunch of them rolled. One old man had rolled his 3 times and didn't get killed, he gave up then. Also if you want a foot clutch, you will have to stay with the Dubuque tractors as the larger ones have hand clutch, unless you go into the later models. You can buy one of the 40 thru 430 models ready to work for 3 to 4 thousand, compared to the 4300 to 4700 models which run near 20 grand with equipment.

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Mark A

01-11-2002 13:03:57




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 Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Little PAUL, 01-11-2002 12:12:47  
A JD 40S, which is a smaller "standard" tractor, and is similar to a "M" would be nice, as it has a nice 3 pt hitch for a shredder. A "M" is ok, but am not sure if it has a 3 pt hitch. A JD 1020 is a little bigger, and newer, tractor and is not a 2 cylinder Johnny Popper. These are all older tractors with a wide front end, "M" and "40S" in the '40s and '50s, 1020 in the '60s. Parts should be available fairly easily for most of these. There are newer JD tractors made in the '70s and '80s, but I dont know all the numbers. I think there is a '80s model JD 630, 3 cylinder diesel (possibly made by Yanmar), that appears to be about the size of a 40S or your current Allis B, but I dont know that much about it. Maybe some of the other fellas (or gals) can explain more. Check your local papers for tractors for sale, and if you have access to the little classified papers, such as thriftynickel or greensheets, check there also. You can always repost a message here to get advice on what you found. Lets help this guy out, and not start any color wars again.

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Little Paul

01-11-2002 15:20:31




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 Re: Re: Help Finding Right Tractor in reply to Mark A, 01-11-2002 13:03:57  
Thanks to all.

This was some real help. I look at the sale papers but when you don't know what they are actually selling how do you know where to start. I wrote all the numbers down you gave me and I am going to start looking. When I find something I will be back. Any other advice is still welcome.



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