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Distillate Availability

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Dominic Centonz

01-01-2002 08:00:05




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After watching some of those black and white archives videos from the Two-Cylinder club, a segment mentioned that distillate contained more BTU's than gasoline, thus giving the engine more power. Now I want to run some of mine on the fuel, but realize it is a fuel of the past. What is the nearest "available" fuel to distillate today?




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Clooney

01-01-2002 08:18:26




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 Re: Distillate Availability in reply to Dominic Centonze, 01-01-2002 08:00:05  
~Dominic, about the closest thing now is kerosene or light heating oil. I run my all-fuel tractors on kerosene sometimes & if the coolant temperature is kept around 200* of higher they run fine.
~Due to the fact that the heavier fuels (ie. Diesel & heating oil) can contain more sulfur & the heavier fuels tend to not burn completely at low loads, they tend to work their way past the rings so you should stay away from that type of fuel or change the oil very often. High sulfur fuels that work their way into the crankcase tend to mix with condensation & form sulfuric acid in the crankcase.

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Frank-in-Tallahassee

01-01-2002 08:47:49




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 Re: Re: Distillate Availability in reply to Clooney, 01-01-2002 08:18:26  
Clooney's right about the H2SO4 being created by high-sulfur fuels...I've seem some pans and bearings in diesels pitted from what could only be called acid attack.

Also, on the mixing of gasoline with either kerosene/#1/#2 diesel fuel, be careful there. Remember those fuels cracked out at the refinery at different temperatures, so they can and do flash and combust at different temperatures. Our neighbor had I think a '51 "G", and he used gasoline mixed with diesel fuel. While he was working it fairly well under load, the gasoline would burn in the cylinder, and at least some of the heavier fuel waited until it was in the exhaust pipe and muffler to burn. Man, you could light a cigarette off that exhaust pipe. LAter he went to straight gasoline, and like it better. I think eventually he might have put a gas power block in it.

If you do want to run a distillate, straight kerosene seems to be the best, but you really do have to make sure the engine is running hot enough to make the stuff vaporize.

I just always ended up running the all-fuels I owned on gasoline, and if I ever had the chance, put gas compression ratio pistons in them.

If you do run a distillate like kerosene, be ready to keep the engine running higher in temperature. Otherwise, it will probably foul theose sparkplugs ! I tried it once in my "H", but it just didn't seem worth the trouble.

Happy New Year

Frank-in-Tallahassee
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Keeping the Chemistry Honest

01-01-2002 18:24:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Distillate Availability in reply to Frank-in-Tallahassee, 01-01-2002 08:47:49  
H2O+SO2=H2SO3, not H2SO4. Sulfurous Acid, not Sulfuric.



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Frank-in-Tallahassee

01-01-2002 18:43:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Distillate Availability in reply to Keeping the Chemistry Honest, 01-01-2002 18:24:29  
Well...ok.

Guess there might an occasional hydroxyl group (OH(-)) in there from time to time that might combine to form some sulfuric, too.

I think the point that was trying to be made is that high sulfur fuel can leave residuals that can form acidic compounds so one might want to increase oil change interval.

I still think it's as easy to run 2,2,4, Tri-methyl-pentane, in an all-fuel, don't you ?

Frank-in-Tallahassee

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Paul

01-01-2002 08:14:35




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 Re: Distillate Availability in reply to Dominic Centonze, 01-01-2002 08:00:05  
kerosine or #1 diesel.#2 diesel cut with about 30% gas works ok.Your engine needs to be all fuel capable (low compression and a hot manifold)and warmed up good before switching over though.



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MERRILL

01-01-2002 10:26:28




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 Re: Re: Distillate Availability in reply to Paul, 01-01-2002 08:14:35  
kerosine and gasoline mix, is that not a low grade jet fuel? how do you light off the afterburner?



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MERRILL

01-01-2002 14:29:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Distillate Availability in reply to MERRILL, 01-01-2002 10:26:28  
I WILL DRINK TO THAT!!!



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ol' Plow boy

01-01-2002 14:17:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Distillate Availability in reply to MERRILL, 01-01-2002 10:26:28  
Jet Fuel is VERY PURE kerosine I belive JP4 not sure on the name tho'
Best to save the "distillate" for medicinal purposes and we always have ailments LOL!



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