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Calcium Chloride in Model B Tires ?'s

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Bob Weber

12-28-2001 10:38:23




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Both rear tires (11.2 X 38) on my '52 Model B are filled nearly full (it comes out of the valve stem when the stem is at TDC) of calcium chloride, and I was wondering how much weight it adds to each tire. I've got to take the tires/wheels off to do some repair and painting, and will most certainly have to drain the stuff out in order to do it, as I think the weight of them would be too much to handle otherwise. Also, I'd like recommendations as to whether or not I should refill the tires with the stuff, as this tractor will probably never do anything except brush hog work as long as I own it, so I probably don't need the extra weight for traction. Also, is this stuff an environmental hazard, or can I run it down the drain?

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Jerry S

01-02-2002 08:04:45




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 Re: Calcium Chloride in Model B Tires ?'s in reply to Bob Weber, 12-28-2001 10:38:23  
I was lucky enough to get that taken out of my tires for free by the tire shop who wanted the stuff to sell to someone else. It is just a kind of salt water. Bad for rims and messes up rubber over time as well. I think if it is as full as you say it is that you might have too much in there anyhow as the books say to fill it up to the top of the rim and the rest gets air.



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gary

12-29-2001 13:45:00




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 Re: Calcium Chloride in Model B Tires ?'s in reply to Bob Weber, 12-28-2001 10:38:23  
Bob,
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that the stuff is highly corrosive, and if you get a leak it will eat up your wheels in a hurry. Also, it is not hazardous to dispose of, but it would help if you diluted it with water as you disposed of it. One other thing, don't dump this out in a corral or pasture where livestock will be walking or laying down in, it ain't to good to hooves and hides. Take precautions yourself also if you get it on you, rinse it off in a hurry and check on what kind of gloves you should wear. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to wear some eye protection also.
If money is no object, let your tire guy handle it. gary

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Pete

12-28-2001 16:42:17




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 Re: Calcium Chloride in Model B Tires ?'s in reply to Bob Weber, 12-28-2001 10:38:23  
Bob, You will more than likely have about 110-125 gallons total to dispose of. We checked with our encon guys here years ago, it won't harm the environment, but is a little rough on the grass. If it is mixed properly it should weigh about 8.5 lbs per gallon, so about 400# per side. It is possible to fill them above the valve, and if your comes out when your valve is up, it is obviously that full. Your B being a 2cyl JD, and having much more of it's weight over the rear axle than most other brands, should be OK without the added weight, especially with the weight of a Hog on the back, for what you said you are doing. That being said, we did need to weight our 70, as it makes for much better traction in mud and snow, and most importantly, on the track when hooked to the sled! We use winter weight windshield washer fluid, with an 8oz bottle of waterbed conditioner in each wheel, it is cheap, non-corrosive, and easy to use yourself, all you need is a garden hose, a 55 gallon drum, a cheap submersible pump and a $9.00 fitting from NAPA or Gemplers. Pete

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Denny Frisk

12-28-2001 12:04:52




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 Re: Calcium Chloride in Model B Tires ?'s in reply to Bob Weber, 12-28-2001 10:38:23  
I just checked Firestone's website. Those tires could have as much as 387# of fluid in them. I doubt that the tires are over valve stem highth full... Best way to tell is to heat the shop on a real cold day and see where the frost line is! If You take the fluid out I'd get rid of it thru a reputable tire dealer who knows how/where to get rid of it or contact Your local recycling center. You'll have about 75 gallons of it to get rid of.

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Chuck

12-28-2001 11:37:56




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 Re: Calcium Chloride in Model B Tires ?'s in reply to Bob Weber, 12-28-2001 10:38:23  
substance is mostly like salt water...I don't think there is any pollution hazard will probably kill your grass. Also have had many tractor and you definitley don't need the stuff. You might if you were plowing where field traction was really needed. I'd remove and just use air. Your're right about not being able to handle, probably adds 2-300 #s per tire or more...don't know if you ever done much tire work, but tire much easier to remove if you leave the rim on the tractor, then remove rim. Do the opposite to install.

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