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Fan removal JD50??

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Guy

12-11-2001 13:45:39




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I promise guys, I am going to get a manual for this tractor! Just haven't gotten one yet and trying to take the tractor apart for cleaning and sanding. Then I won't need to ask so many ??'s (hopefully). I am looking at the fan assembly and fan shroud. What is involved with removing these without taking the radiator out? I really want to clean them both up (actually could use a better fan shroud!) and would prefer to work with them off the tractor. Looks to be a pain though. Should I just leave them on and do what I can or isn't it a big deal to remove everything? Looks like the shaft and all would have to come out? Thanks in advance!

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jeff

12-17-2001 09:23:37




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
Guy, send e-mail address IF you took radiator off and plan to take it apart, I have.



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Guy

12-14-2001 05:13:20




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
Tractor doesn't have power steering. I tried removing the three bolts that bolt the shaft to the governor housing last night and still couldn't get enough room to get everything out. I will try removing the complete governor housing as you suggested. It's starting to get personal! One way or the other that sucker is coming out!!
Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.



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Ron

12-13-2001 15:48:48




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
You didn't mention Power Steering so I assume you don't have that. We usually remove the fuel tank , then you remove the fan shaft and the govenor housing in one unit. It's just a matter of unbolting the unit and lifting it straigt up.



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donwisc

12-12-2001 10:00:28




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
Went thru the same ordeal with a 630 power steering and for want of BOUT A 1/4 INCH YOU HAD TO move the rad. If you want to do a 1st class job move the rad. also when you got every thing apart you may want to change seals. Good luck and repeating what was already said TAKE YOUR TIME



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dave g

12-12-2001 07:27:49




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
I'm probly going to get shot for saying this, but another way I thought of would be to unbolt the fan shroud and wrestle it back so it's over the fan shaft only, then make a really good cut at the top, allowing it to twist a bit and slide over the fan shaft. I know it's crude, but the cut would be at the top where NOBODY could ever see it, and if you were good you could weld it back together so nobody would ever notice. From my experience, removing radiators and fan shafts get frusterating quickly. I believe you can also sand the shroud quite easily by just unbolting it and moving it back provided you remove the hood and such, but getting the inside good is quite a trick. Good Luck!!

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Ron

12-12-2001 07:18:44




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
Guy,
Good info from the other posts. I wanted to add that if your 50 has power steering then it's an even bigger job because there are power steering lines to remove too. The power steering pump is mounted just behind the fan. It isn't terribly hard to remove the radiator if you already have the sheet metal off. The main thing with the radiator is that it ways "a ton" with those heavy top and bottom castings. I was able to lift mine in and out, but I would have been smarter to get some help.

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oh my

12-12-2001 07:20:47




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 Re: Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Ron, 12-12-2001 07:18:44  
I meant it "weighs" a ton, not "ways", sorry.



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Bob K

12-12-2001 06:34:13




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
This isn't going to be what you want to hear, but the fan shaft was the most difficult part of restoring my 50. Since I had already removed the radiator, I had room to work. In your case, to get the shroud off, you'll have to remove the fan shaft. Read all of these steps before proceeding.

1. Remove the belt.

2. Remove the bolts to the fan shroud and the two bolts under the front fan shaft support.

3. Remove the bolts that mount the rear shaft (ventilator) housing to the governor case.

4. The shaft has to come forward about 1/2" out of the governor case as there is a shoulder on the fanshaft housing that centers the shaft in the governor case. It may be a tight fit so work the shaft back and forth a little to walk the shoulder out of the governor case. Put a piece of plywood between the front of the fanshaft and the back side of the radiator so when it comes loose, you won't poke a hole in the radiator core.

5. Be careful to keep track of the gaskets at the rear end of the shaft as they act as shims for the correct backlash between the gears of the governor and fanshaft. (The ventilator housing at the rear of the fan shaft stays with the fan shaft assembly. Separate the mating surfaces between the governor housing and the back side of the ventilator housing.)

6. The shaft has to come out from the flywheel side of the tractor. I don't know exactly what else you may have to remove to get it out (air cleaner, throttle linkages, choke lever), but the service manual says it can be done without removing the radiator.

7. Move slowly and carefully. The greatest pitfalls during my restoration happened when I got in a hurry.

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zane

12-12-2001 08:01:23




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 Re: Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Bob K, 12-12-2001 06:34:13  
I know the book says the fan will come out without removing the radiator. I couldn't make it happen. My suggestion: Go ahead and remove the radiator before you poke a hole in the core--and still have to remove the radiator.



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Chuck

12-11-2001 14:10:31




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 Re: Fan removal JD50?? in reply to Guy, 12-11-2001 13:45:39  
it's a big job to remove....



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